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This would be amazing if true... reading the most recent news though it seems Tishman will be ~1200 and Flatbush more like 1000 although that very well could be/ I hope is subject to change.

As far as height goes we always have Nordstrom so I hope the other at least have amazing designs
Flatbush for now: 1,066ft/325m. But knowing JDF/SHoP it could become taller.

We will see.
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Was checking the CTBUH site, and they changed the ticker of 300m globally to 100. Makes a comparison easier, and so, currently, the U.S. has 10 towers 300m u/c.

So if the ticker was just set at 100, a nice 10% of global super talls. Currently 17 towers complete. 27& u/c + complete.

As a comparison, China has 38 completed, and 64 under construction. If the super tall count remained stagnant, China is building the global super tall stock all over again, at 102 ( u/c + complete). This is even factoring all other countries minus the existing China 300m stock. A good 92% of all super talls ever built in other countries are rising in China.

The U.S. will gain a couple when some of the proposals go through, but the lead is incredible. Still, the U.S. will surpass the U.A.E. once the u/c towers finish, and will remain second for a while. Still, 1st is way off for a very long time.

Without China, super talls globally would be at 64. Over half are in that place alone.

In terms of U.S. proposed, its at 22 for 300m and 74 for China.

NYC is on track by 2025 to surpass Dubai as the super tall capital.
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The shitty skinny condo tower fad needs too go.
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Old Posted Jan 4, 2016, 12:49 AM
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The shitty skinny condo tower fad needs too go.
People may not realize it yet, but there are some big fat office towers going up, like 30 Hudson Yards, 1 Manhattan West, 3WTC, and soon 2WTC and 1 Vanderbilt. New York's office stock is pretty old, so we'll see even more office construction in the future.
As for the skinny supertalls: well I happen to like them. Even 432 PA looks good, and Verre and Steinway are two gems to behold.
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3 Hudson Blvd aka the GiraSole is U/C! 1,050'



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Old Posted Jan 5, 2016, 1:30 PM
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The number of supertalls is growing steadily:

Completed:

1. One World Trade Center
2. 432 Park Avenue
3. Empire State Building
4. Bank of America Tower
5. Chrysler Building
6. New York Times Tower
7. One57

Under construction:

1. Central Park Tower
2. 111 West 57th Street
3. 125 Greenwich Street
4. 30 Hudson Yards
5. Three World Trade Center
6. Tower Verre
7. 35 Hudson Yards
8. The Girasole
9. One Manhattan West

Starting soon:

1. One Vanderbilt Place
2. Two World Trade Center
3. Two Manhattan West (??)
4. 520 West 41st Street (??)
5. 50 Hudson Yards
6. 340 Flatbush Avenue

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By 2020 the city could have 20 supertalls. That is utterly amazing.
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Old Posted Jan 5, 2016, 5:27 PM
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45 Broad St could be a potential 900 footer:

http://www.6sqft.com/revealed-45-bro...ings-downtown/

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Now, via Pizzarotti’s project page, we have our first look at the design of the 300,000-square-foot CetraRuddy-designed tower that the development group affirms “will be the highest condo in Downtown Manhattan.” The team will have to move quickly, though; at least two condo towers are proposed to be taller including Shvo’s supertall at 125 Greenwich Street.


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45 Broad Street is officially 1,100 ft. and 86 floors per the developer.

http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2016/0...5_broad_st.php
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Old Posted Jan 6, 2016, 8:32 PM
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45 Broad Street is officially 1,100 ft. and 86 floors per the developer.

http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2016/0...5_broad_st.php
That awesome news! Another supertall to add to the list. And my guess is construction will begin sooner than later here.



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As previously reported, CetraRuddy (of One Madison and Walker Tower fame) is behind the building's design, which is still being finalized. The firms expect to break ground on the project in late October or November of this year, with an anticipated completion date of 2018.
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Nice rendering for a tower on 6 Columbus Circle



Thread: http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=220499
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Old Posted Jan 8, 2016, 11:18 PM
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^ Wow, that's one sexy tower! Looks about 700 feet.
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I like the Gothic influence on Flatbush, looks really nice and original compared to other skyscrapers.

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The shitty skinny condo tower fad needs too go.
As long as there is the expensive real estate to build on, and buyers willing to pay for units at the top of such towers, they will be built. It's another evolution in skyscraper building in New York. And we're getting some of our best gems (111 W. 57th comes to mind) thanks to this. To be sure, we're still getting towers like Manhattan West, Hudson Yards, One Vanderbilt, even the WTC, that are all pushing the supertall development count higher.

When all is said and done though, the changing and evolving skyline shows a thriving New York. I can't imagine what it will be like the day there are no cranes on the skyline anymore. They're all over the place now.



http://therealdeal.com/2015/07/13/co...kyscraper-era/

Could NYC soon be in the 2,000-foot-tall skyscraper era?
Cement and steel doubled in strength the past 10 years, will get even stronger


July 13, 2015

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With the city’s recent wave of supertall skyscraper projects showing no sign of abating, it may not be long before buildings up to and exceeding 2,000 feet in height dot the skyline, according to the 220 Central Park South structural engineer Stephen DeSimone.

Engineering advancements already make structures up to 2,000 feet possible, as cement and steel have doubled in strength in the past 10 years. DeSimone, who operates his own firm DeSimone Consulting Engineers, expects those materials to become another 50 percent stronger in the next five to 10 years.


http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...eve-the-answer

How tall can NYC's skyscrapers go? You won't believe the answer
As towers surpass 1,400 feet, one structural engineer predicts 2,000-foot spires are around the corner—and maybe even half-mile-tall spires will follow suit.




http://therealdeal.com/issues_articl...real-estate-2/

The Future of NYC real estate
Kinetic buildings and 2,000-foot skyscrapers are just around the corner


January 01, 2016
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Competing for height is in New York City’s blood.

Since the early 1900s, with the advent of steel frames, developers have attempted to set height records with their buildings.

The 792-foot Woolworth Building, which opened in 1913, was the city’s tallest tower until 1930, when it was surpassed by the Chrysler Building at 1,046 feet. That was followed by the Empire State Building at 1,250 feet in 1931, and then the first World Trade Center at 1,368 feet in 1973.

Today, Extell Development Company’s Central Park Tower is poised to be the city’s tallest — save, symbolically, for One World Trade Center — at 1,555 feet. But developers’ mad dash to one-up each other could lead to a new (and even taller) wave of supertalls.

.....JDS Development is incorporating concrete with a 14,000-pounds-per-square-inch compression strength at 111 West 57th Street, its “skinny” condo tower that’s set to top out at more than 1,400 feet. One World Trade Center also features concrete with the same degree of strength. By comparison, 10 years ago, the strongest concrete used in buildings in the city was 10,000 pounds per square inch.

Looking ahead five to 10 years, concrete and steel are likely to see a 50 percent increase in strength, according to Stephen DeSimone, who runs the structural engineering firm DeSimone Consulting Engineers.

This evolution will usher in towers that reach 2,000 feet or even 2,640 feet — a half a mile — DeSimone told Crain’s last July. That’s about two Empire State Buildings stacked on top of each other.

Making it all possible are leaps in construction technology.
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I hope theres a couple 2000 footers there soon. That would be sick.
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I hope theres a couple 2000 footers there soon. That would be sick.
It's certainly on the horizon. My guess is we'll see a serious proposal in the coming years. The height is gradually increasing, now you have to built a 1,600 footer to be the tallest in the city.
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Could NYC soon be in the 2,000-foot-tall skyscraper era?
Cement and steel doubled in strength the past 10 years, will get even stronger
To add the context to this, the steel industry has predominately moved from 36ksi steel to 50 ksi steel over the past decade or so, and 70ksi steel is starting to be used more now. Improved heat treatment processes should enable further strength gains, possibly up to 200ksi.
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http://nypost.com/2016/01/10/heres-h...ing-to-change/

Here’s how NYC’s skyline is going to change


By Steve Cuozzo
January 10, 2016

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Give a high-five to the Super Talls — the city’s next generation of cloudbusting towers, shown here as a thundering herd.

Love them or hate them, the nine giants in this composite created for The Post by development-happy Web site New York YIMBY (Yes In My Back Yard) are all under construction. Not included: projects that reached their full height last year or are still at the demolition stage. Some are already lifting their heads visibly skyward. Others are rarin’ to rise from foundations.

They aren’t mere proposals, but fully financed done deals — an illustration of how New York City has gone skyscraper-mad. All are at least 900 feet high; six will stand 1,000 feet and up. By comparison, One World Trade Center is 1,776 feet tall including the mast (1,368-foot roof height); the Empire State Building, 1,454 feet to the top of spire; One Bryant Park, 1,200 feet; and the Chrysler Building, 1,046 feet.

........217 West 57th St.

This rendering from YIMBY is the most detailed yet of Extell’s long-awaited, so-called Central Park Tower designed by architects Adrian Smith + Gordon Gill. Its 130-floor, 1,550-foot height makes it easily the city’s tallest residential structure and loftier than One World Trade Center’s roof. The city’s first Nordstrom department store has signed a lease to occupy the first seven floors. Above it will be approximately 130 super-luxe condo apartments. Completion: 2019.

From left: 220 Central Park South; 35 Hudson Yards; 175 Greenwich St. (3 World Trade Center); 30 Hudson Yards; 217 West 57th St.; 111 West 57th St.; 53 West 53rd St.; 1 Manhattan West; 15 Hudson Yards
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New York YIMYBY

http://www.yimbynews.com/2016/01/why...year-ever.html

Why 2016 Will Be the Manhattan Skyline’s Biggest Year Ever



















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