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Old Posted Jun 17, 2011, 3:31 AM
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So many people are complaining about the plaza, but how many actually use it? As a user of the plaza, I have to once again say that it invites people to sit down, to stop and actually enjoy the space, rather than move through it on your way to somewhere else. I can enjoy lunch at Mendocino Farms outdoors now whereas before I would be sweating under the beating midday sun. Oh, but at least it "met the street." The 5th Street side, btw, was always on a different grade since the plaza and Flower Street are lower than that section of 5th. Anyway, It went from looking like a chess board to looking like usable space, and there's a huge entryway on the corner that doesn't hinder pedestrian flow in any way.

On this, we may just have to agree to disagree, though. Why do I always feel like we have to jerk off the strict urbanists on this forum? Let's just enjoy a positive, beautiful semi-public space for once. It's not a repeat of that plaza next to 801 Figueroa, after all.

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I'm not sure what is more exciting in this article; the fact that One Santa Fe has an official ground breaking date of January 2012, or that WE ARE GETTING A NEW SUBWAY STOP. Judging by my use of capitalization, it would seem that I have decided on which article of news is more exciting. Micheal Maltzan, the architect of One Santa Fe, is one of the most talented L.A. area architects out there, so it is great to see him doing something so major. He is, in my opinion, one of the only architects that can make stucco look appealing. Moreover, the fact that One Santa Fe is $150 million is really cool. That shows that even in a post-recession world, developers are still going to build big in downtown, not just talk about possibly building big. Downtown is like that snowball that rolled down a hill, picked up snow, and turned into an avalanche. There is no stopping an avalanche. Anyways, on to the subway stop.

Metro is going to extend the Red and Purple Lines from Union Station to the Arts District. In the picture, you can see what the proposed station will look like. From a transit enthusiasts point of view, this is cool, because it is L.A.s first open-air heavy rail station. Also, it has a sky bridge connecting it to One Santa Fe, also very cool. Moreover, I bet this station will canalization the Little Tokyo Gold Line stop, due to it being quicker and Heavy Rail and stuff. The station, by the by, will cost only $90 million to build, which is incredibly cheap.

That doesn't really make sense when the Gold Line is so close. Unless the Red/Purple Line Extension shares Tracks with the Goldline to Little Tokyo.
     
     
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This is interesting but not surprising. For at least the past two decades, the fastest growth in CA has been in the Inland Empire and the Central Valley, where there is an abundance of land and housing prices were cheaper (not surprisingly, this is the area gaining legislative seats in the current redistricting process). As Chris Lienberger from Brookings has pointed out, however, demographics and consumer preferences are changing. I don't know the exact percentage off hand but something like 50% or more of households do not have children living at home. These people do not want to live in a gated community nor do they want to drive an hour each way to work (or get a gallon of milk). They want to be able to walk to nightlife, a coffee-shop, etc. At the discussion by Mr. Liengerger that I attended, he noted that for most of the post-WWII period, developers got realy good at building single-family homes and for most of the period from 1945-2000, provided these almost exclusively. Thus, therre is a tremendous pent-up demand for urban housing and, in fact, it is this housing that has maintained its value far better during the recent downturn in housing prices.

California to suffer housing shift, UCLA forecasters say
Demand will grow for urban rental units by the coast and shrink for single-family homes inland, resulting in fewer construction jobs and no boom for some areas hit hard by the housing bust.


Chain-link fences surround homes left unfinished in Hesperia. Demand for inland single-family homes is expected to decline. (Katie Falkenberg, For The Times / June 15, 2011)

By Alana Semuels
Los Angeles Times
June 15, 2011

"UCLA forecasters have seen the future of California's housing market, and it looks like this: more apartments near the coast, fewer McMansions in the desert.

That prediction is based on several factors, including expectations that rising fuel prices will encourage people to live closer to jobs along the Southland coast and in the San Francisco Bay Area.

The state's population is also skewing younger, meaning there will be more demand for urban rental units and less demand for suburban cul-de-sacs, according to the quarterly economic forecast released Wednesday by UCLA's Anderson School of Business..."

http://www.latimes.com/business/realestate/la-fi-econ-forecast-20110615,0,3144669.story
The Central Valley will likely see another building boom with the Highspeed rail but that may take over a decade. I think the one postive trend of higher gass prices is the slow down of suburban sprawl.
     
     
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That doesn't really make sense when the Gold Line is so close. Unless the Red/Purple Line Extension shares Tracks with the Goldline to Little Tokyo.
Gold is Light Rail, Red and Purple is Heavy Rail. So, incompatible. It does make sense, because it isn't that close, and as it only is costing 90 million dollars, there isn't much to loose.
     
     
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That doesn't really make sense when the Gold Line is so close. Unless the Red/Purple Line Extension shares Tracks with the Goldline to Little Tokyo.
Heavy Rail (like the Red/Purple) is incompatible with Light Rail (like the Gold). And of course it makes sense, as it further juices up the Arts District with transit connections and encourages the development.

And having separate and/or incompatible transit corridors near each other is not exactly all that uncommon.
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So many people are complaining about the plaza, but how many actually use it? As a user of the plaza, I have to once again say that it invites people to sit down, to stop and actually enjoy the space, rather than move through it on your way to somewhere else. I can enjoy lunch at Mendocino Farms outdoors now whereas before I would be sweating under the beating midday sun. Oh, but at least it "met the street." The 5th Street side, btw, was always on a different grade since the plaza and Flower Street are lower than that section of 5th. Anyway, It went from looking like a chess board to looking like usable space, and there's a huge entryway on the corner that doesn't hinder pedestrian flow in any way.

On this, we may just have to agree to disagree, though. Why do I always feel like we have to jerk off the strict urbanists on this forum? Let's just enjoy a positive, beautiful semi-public space for once. It's not a repeat of that plaza next to 801 Figueroa, after all.
i was about to post the same thing. i think its a great plaza now, very enjoyable.
     
     
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In the past couple of years, Chicago has seen a number of corporations relocate back into the city, prompting this article in Crain's:

Corporate campuses in twilight


Like the disco ball, the regional shopping mall and the McMansion, the suburban corporate headquarters campus is losing its charm.

Remote, sprawling and splendidly isolated, such headquarters epitomized corporate America in the last quarter of the 20th century. Fleeing urban decay, companies like Motorola Inc., Allstate Corp. and Sears Roebuck & Co. built fortress-like complexes on the fringes of metropolitan Chicago. Jobs and residential development followed, fueling sprawl and congestion across the region.

Today, Sears Holdings Corp. and AT&T Inc. are looking to escape their compounds in northwest suburban Hoffman Estates. A shrunken Motorola has space to let in Schaumburg. Sara Lee Corp. eyes downtown office space after less than a decade in Downers Grove. Companies from Groupon Inc. to GE Capital hire thousands in Chicago while their suburban counterparts shed workers.

All reflect changes in the corporate mindset that spawned the campuses dotting outer suburbia. Empire-building CEOs from the 1970s through the 1990s craved not only cheap real estate but total control of their environments. They created self-contained corporate villages that cut off employees from outside influences.

As the 21st century enters its second decade, many companies are discovering the drawbacks of the isolation they sought. Hard-to-get-to headquarters limit the talent pool a company can draw on and feed a “not-invented-here” insularity that ignores major shifts in industries and markets.



Read more: http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/2...orate-campuses-in-twilight#ixzz1PVa1aJ61



And then the NY Times is reporting that UBS bank is considering a move back into the City from Stamford:


Regretting Move, Bank May Return to Manhattan

By CHARLES V. BAGLI
Published: June 8, 2011

Fifteen years ago, New York City’s reputation as an international financial center was called into question when the giant Swiss bank UBS moved its North American headquarters to the Connecticut suburbs, where it built the largest trading floor in the world.

Now, though, UBS is having buyer’s remorse. It turns out that a suburban location has become a liability in recruiting the best and brightest young bankers, who want to live in Manhattan or Brooklyn, not in Stamford, Conn., which is about 35 miles northeast of Midtown. The firm has also discovered that it would be better to be closer to major clients in the city.

As a result, UBS is seriously considering a reverse migration that would bring its investment banking division and up to 2,000 bankers and traders back to Wall Street and a new skyscraper at the rebuilt World Trade Center, according to real estate executives and city officials.

read more...........

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/09/nyregion/ubs-may-move-back-to-manhattan-from-stamford.html?_r=2
     
     
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So many people are complaining about the plaza, but how many actually use it? As a user of the plaza, I have to once again say that it invites people to sit down, to stop and actually enjoy the space, rather than move through it on your way to somewhere else. I can enjoy lunch at Mendocino Farms outdoors now whereas before I would be sweating under the beating midday sun. Oh, but at least it "met the street." The 5th Street side, btw, was always on a different grade since the plaza and Flower Street are lower than that section of 5th. Anyway, It went from looking like a chess board to looking like usable space, and there's a huge entryway on the corner that doesn't hinder pedestrian flow in any way.

On this, we may just have to agree to disagree, though. Why do I always feel like we have to jerk off the strict urbanists on this forum? Let's just enjoy a positive, beautiful semi-public space for once. It's not a repeat of that plaza next to 801 Figueroa, after all.
Thank you! Yes, I have to say I like the redo too and the corner entryway is MORE THAN WELCOMING and there is no problem with the planters IMO. I have sat down in the plaza as well and thought it was very pleasant. There is no sense of it being unwelcoming. It's a great new space for the city.
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In the past couple of years, Chicago has seen a number of corporations relocate back into the city, prompting this article in Crain's:
alki, personally I'd rather see postings of good news about a place that's closer to home....


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Regal Cinemas L.A. Live multiplex draws the crowds in a down market

The $100-million gamble by billionaire Phil Anschutz to create a destination multiplex in downtown Los Angeles appears to be paying off. Since it opened in October 2009, the 14-screen Regal Cinemas in the entertainment sports district known as L.A. Live has emerged as one of the busiest theaters in the nation's largest cinema chain, executives said.

"It's definitely a theater that has outperformed our expectations," Regal Entertainment Group Chief Executive Amy Miles said. "It has continued to increase market share."

The theater saw its share of overall box office revenue in Los Angeles increase to 1.74% in May, up from 1.37% in January, according to AEG, the sports and entertainment comglomerate that is controlled by Anschutz and owns Regal Cinemas L.A. Live. Anschutz is also the largest private investor in Regal, which is based in Knoxville, Tenn.

The downtown multiplex was always envisioned as an L.A. flagship theater for Regal, which has more than 50 theaters locally and 539 nationwide. But it has generated more business than company executives expected, consistently ranking among the 20 busiest theaters in Regal's circuit and often drawing bigger crowds than much larger multiplexes.

At a time when theater attendance has been down nationwide, largely because of a crop of weak movies, Regal executives said the L.A. Live venue has seen a 9% increase in ticket sales so far this year over the same period in 2010.

Additionally, the multiplex -- which is adjacent to the Staples Center -- has held 15 screenings and premieres this year and is hosting the L.A. Film Festival, which begins this week.

Miles said the theater has benefited from all the foot traffic at the L.A. Live complex, which draws crowds to restaurants, concerts and sporting events, notwithstanding the Lakers early exit from the playoffs.
-- Richard Verrier

^ this reminds me of the ralphs on 9th St & what I was worried about before it opened a few yrs ago. I thought that in order to attract enough business it would have to cater to all the large families living farther west, around mcarthur park, or farther east, around boyle heights. the joke is on me --->
     
     
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^ Yes citywatch, I remember vividly that you were skeptical that people would walk over to the fringe of this "new complex" called LA Live to watch a movie. But this is exactly what I mean when I think LA has great potential. There are NO LACK of bodies in this metropolis and if we can funnel that population into a denser built environment, LA will continue to "out perform" those expectations. In a region of 18 million, it's totally possible.
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Yes citywatch, I remember vividly that you were skeptical that people would walk over to the fringe of this "new complex" called LA Live to watch a movie.
you're right, brighamyen! I almost forgot about that one.

I also have to mention that before the large restaurant on the 1st floor of the brockman bldg on 7th St opened, I was worried the owners were being too ambitious & might end up with egg on their face. That they'd have a hard time filling up all the chairs & tables. since then, the rest is history (of bottega louie).

again, this is me ----> [cue the circus calliope music]
     
     
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I have to say Citywatch that I also thought Bottega Louie would be a bust. But...they created a huge restaurant with good food, pastries and a nice bar and the place has more energy than any restaurant Downtown...or in Los Angeles. Now look at the restaurant development on 7th Street. It is amazing.

I also believe that Artwalk...though too crowded for my tastes..has been a catalyst for loft demand in the Historic Core. I hope the renovation/development at Clifton's will stimulate changes on Broadway. I believe it will kickstart other major projects...we are starting to see a few already.

If the organization "Home for Good" is successful, Downtown will see such a reduction in homelessness...which is still a detriment to the potentially explosive Downtown development of the future.
     
     
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I was among the Bottega Louie skeptics as well, not because I thought the concept was bad or that the people weren't there, but because they spent soo much money on it. I thought for sure the crowds would die down eventually and they'd have trouble. Fortunately, I was wrong!
     
     
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From Los Angeles Downtown News:

Coast Savings Building Sells for $16.5 Million
Canadian Buyer Interested in Conversion and Building High-Rise on Adjacent Lot
by Jon Regardie, Executive Editor
Published: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:59 PM PDT

DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES – The Coast Savings Bank building, a 1926 edifice at 315 W. Ninth St., has been sold. The new owner is looking not only at upgrading the building, but erecting a new high-rise on an adjacent parking lot.

The 12-story building and the lot were sold by LaeRoc Partners, headed by investor Kim Benjamin, to the Onni Group of Companies, a firm based in Vancouver, Canada. It marks Onni’s first purchase in Downtown, and they remain interested in South Park, said David W. Louie, first vice president of real estate firm CB Richard Ellis, who represented the buyer and seller in the transaction.

The building and lot were sold for $16.5 million. Escrow closed this month, Louie said.

The 163,000-square-foot building is about 65% occupied, said Louie. It generates more than $1 million a year in operating income.

Benjamin had previously begun looking at an upgrade of the building and creating a 31-story condominium tower on the adjacent lot. The proposal has a tentative tract map, though Onni would have to secure full entitlements before embarking on a transformation and a ground-up project.

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A rendering of the 31-story condominium tower that was proposed in 2009 for a lot adjacent to the Coast Savings building in South Park. Rendering courtesy of RSA Architects.
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Coast Federal saves you more,
Ninth and Hill on the ground floor.
Open your savings account at Coast,
Coast Federal Savings.

A memorable jingle from the 1950's. You almost don't need to know the tune if you follow the hard accents on the beat.

Could this area be the next area to wake up? Lots of low rise retail and parking lots, with a few gems scattered about. Near Broadway, FIDM, the Orpheum; 4 short blocks to LA Live, etc.
     
     
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from the travel section of a paper on the east coast, so these type of articles often pull their punches. Not totally in this case. But it wasn't that long ago when such coverage would have been mostly a big "huh"?!


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Eat, drink, sleep it off, walk


Jonathan Levitt for The Boston Globe

By Jonathan Levitt
Globe Correspondent / June 19, 2011

Caña is a members-only rum bar on a quiet stretch of Flower Boulevard, within sight of the Staples Center, where the Lakers and the Clippers play basketball..... Pay the $20 annual membership fee and walk inside. You’re in the Petroleum Building, built in 1924 by Edward L. Doheny.... Specifically you are in a leather- and wood-lined concrete bunker of a room attached to a glass greenhouse where Doheny’s wife grew orchids....

Caña is just one of many new, high-concept eating and drinking places in what was a blighted downtown. Los Angeles is a city of neighborhoods. Each has its own particular feeling, but one blends into another. Heading east from the ocean, gritty and beachy Venice becomes beachy and suburban Santa Monica, which becomes suburban and hilly Brentwood, which becomes hilly and kooky Hollywood, which becomes hilly and hipster Silverlake . . .

But downtown is different. In the movies it is often a stand-in for Manhattan. With its dense grid of modern skyscrapers and historic brick and mortar, it is easy to see why. But compared with Manhattan, downtown Los Angeles is a ghost town. It was not always this way. By the 1920s more than 1,100 miles of train track connected downtown to the rest of Los Angeles. It was the business and shopping center of the growing city, strategically located with the mountains to the north and east, and the ocean to the west.

But then came World War II and suburbanization. Urban centers declined around the country. Downtown LA was basically emptied. Freeways and cars replaced trains. Historic buildings were torn down to make room for parking lots.

Over the past 20 years there has been a significant effort to remake the downtown. It still feels faded and pruned too hard, but it is, after all, the geographical and transportation center of a metropolitan area with over 14 million people. Now the sports teams play here, as do the Los Angeles Philharmonic and the Los Angeles Master Chorale. Office buildings have been converted into loft apartments, and Metro Rail turns 21 next month. People who could be anywhere are choosing to be downtown. Night life and food are at the heart of this reversal. The best places are set in reimagined and repurposed spaces in neighborhoods that had been dead for decades.

I spent a few days eating and drinking my way around the area. It was not enough time. The breadth of downtown dining is wide, of drinking wider still.

I started in the historic core. Not far from the rum greenhouse of Caña there is a whole cluster of perfect watering holes: Seven Grand, a whisky bar clad in taxidermy, leather, and plaid; The Golden Gopher, a fantasy dive bar with a good jukebox; Casey’s, a classic Irish pub; Cole’s, a saloon that has been serving French dip sandwiches and beer since 1908, with The Varnish, a neo-speakeasy serving prohibition-era cocktails through an unmarked door in the back; and Las Perlas, mescal and beer with a big patio. They are all great, but playing pool and drinking perfect Manhattans at Seven Grand, or tearing into a puro — a smoky mezcal-based old-fashioned with sugar, mole bitters, and a twist of grapefruit — at Las Perlas is particularly thrilling.

There are restaurants all over the civic center neighborhood and the core. Rivera is chef John Rivera Sedlar’s master class on modern Latin cuisine.... Bottega Louie, a crowd pleaser, serves everything from brick oven pizza...to pedigreed cheeseburgers...to those fancy French soft-colored macarons. The space is the size of a train station, clad in brass and white marble, and open all day long.

From the city center it is about a mile east to the arts district and developing industrial districts on the outskirts of Little Tokyo. On foot, there are two ways to get here — either straight ahead or down and around. Down and around means a tame stroll past bank buildings and through the spotless streets of Little Tokyo. Straight ahead means a shorter walk but through the depths of skid row, a stretch of downtown that still feels like night of the living dead. Tents are staked down in the middle of the street, campfires burn. The empty wander but they keep to themselves and are soon replaced with yoga people buying Vinho Verde at wine shops, eating oysters on outdoor patios, and parking their electric cars outside luxury lofts.

...It is nice to see downtown reimagined and repurposed as the center of Los Angeles.



Patricia Borns for The Boston Globe
Around the corner from the Fashion Institute of Design and Merchandising, a mobile
gourmet awaits the lunch crush of new entrepreneurs and loft dwellers who've moved
downtown.



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Eye-opening is the best description for the transformation of downtown
LA's Spring St. The former Wall Street of the West is rich in 1920s bank
buildings being redeveloped as luxury lofts that sell as fast as the paint
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Flower Boulevard. I love it.

Besides that, they seem to have gotten most things right though. Nice to see more east coast newspapers recognizing DTLA.
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Come to think of it, Flower Street might be a great place to start a theme along the roadway..... of flowers.

Would flower planters en masse be appropriate there, I don't know?
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Come to think of it, Flower Street might be a great place to start a theme along the roadway..... of flowers.

Would flower planters en masse be appropriate there, I don't know?
Or put flowers on all the balconies, like Paris or something.
     
     
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How funny, I just wrote a blog post a few days ago about adding FLOWERS to the Historic Core. Check it out:



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Adding Flowers to the Historic Core in Downtown LA (6/15/2011)

It's the little things that make an area feel like a neighborhood with a sense of community. I took these pictures (more below) of the flowers and other plants that are now seen throughout the Historic Core in Downtown Los Angeles.

Continue reading here...
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