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Originally Posted by jbermingham123
When I become king of the world the first thing I'm going to do is move the Javits to Sunnyside yards and move MSG to where the Javits is.
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Cuomo had an idea for moving the Javits to Queens a few years ago, but that was dropped in favor of expansion.
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Originally Posted by yankeesfan1000
A real possibility is MSG stays, The Theater at Madison Square Garden is demolished (marked Forum/Forum Lobby below facing 8th Ave), and the removal of that sort of underbelly of MSG facing 8th Ave allows the construction of the renderings below.
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That's part of the plan, and if you look at Penn Station/MSG across the street from Farley, it's not a pretty sight. But the plan is to create something more or less more pleasing to the eye, and opening Penn Station to daylight. It's why that JDS proposal was basically what Cuomo called for.
https://newyorkyimby.com/2016/01/1809506.html
http://jdsdevelopment.com/empire-station-proposal/
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Originally Posted by Amanita
Something that occurred to me- a lot of the businesses in that area -One Penn's retail tenants, the restaurants in the area, the stores- those are (at least the vast majority of them) places that serve the working class people of the neighborhood.
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Sorry, but those are going to go whether or not Vornado does anything now or not. They've just been in a holding pattern, sort of like 15 Penn until Vornado can act. It's better than having vacant storefronts. But just walk around the area, up 8th and 7th, and you will see that the type of stores you are talking about are closing and being replaced with more upscale stores or none at all. The area is changing, and that process has already begun. But the blocks immediately surrounding the most heavily populated transit center in the hemisphere can (and should) do much better than a location for just retail. There should be as much density there as possible, and that means tall and large skyscrapers. Of course, you can and should have retail at the ground level, but what type of retail that may be doesn't take precedent here.