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Originally Posted by JManc
I don't think you can compare American rust bucket cities to Japan;
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I brought up Detroit region as an example of how a given geography could
physically look like when facing population decline. I compared it negatively to Japan as Japan is emptying out their outskirts while keeping their core viable where all their massive infrastructure is already located.
As the human population
will shrink at some point in this century, I guess it's productive to look at societies, places, geographies that's already experiencing or experienced population decline.
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Originally Posted by JManc
Japan is facing a demographic time bomb and is slow to embrace immigration while American cities are susceptible to economic headwinds. The US in general is steadily growing despite stagnating native birth rates so cities ebb and flow depending on economic opportunities. In Japan, people are not having kids and marrying robots at 35.
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There are many misconceptions here. "Native births" in the US are not stagnating. Births in the US (native or otherwise) are
declining and declining good. It fell from 4.32 million in 2007 to 3.59 million in 2023. Deaths are naturally always rising (from 2.42 million to 3.07 million in 2007 and 2023 respectively) and baby boomers haven't started dying off yet. When that time arrives (within less than 10 years), deaths in the US will soar to 4 million/year and will remain at this level for a very long time.
I don't know where you got this "Japanese marrying with robots" thing (cartoonish misconceptions about foreign countries are so dated), but you realize fertility rates in the US and Japan is not that different anymore right? 1.64 children per women vs 1.33. One could argue they're actually converging: as recent as in 2005 fertility rate was at 2.06 in the US and 1.26 in Japan. Basically fertility rate plunged by 0.5 children in the past 15 years whereas in Japan it remained more or less on their same (low) level, with an actual promising small recovery back on the 2010's.
So yeah, an American woman today has 1.6 child while a Japanese has 1.3. It's not dramatically difference. Americans are not having five children in big suburban compounds while Japanese are marrying to robots. Low fertility rates, below population replacement level, is now present over the entire American and European continents, Oceania and half of Asia. It's not a small thing restricted to "weird foreigners".