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Old Posted Jun 5, 2009, 10:57 PM
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An update from spain, I posted som construction pictures last year and here are the some new ones showing the current situation.

First from the Barcelona - Figueras line

south of Girona by U-Bahn


North of Barcelona by Danzig


The site in Barcelona where the new Sagrera trainstation will be built. by me
A video with interior renders of the trainstation http://www.barcelonasagrera.com/gale...ideo&videoID=1


Next up is the Madrid - Valencia - Alicante line

North of Albacete by monolo






these pics have been taken some 10-20 km west of Alicante by RDaneel







The mountain range in the background is located ca 7,5 km (5 miles) west of Alicante central trainstation.





This bridge is located on the line that will connect Madrid with Valencia and is sheduled to open for traffic november 2010.
An interesting video showing the construction process of the bridge. http://video.adif.es/video/iLyROoafJSHB.html
Picture by Fomento


Next pictures up are from the Seville-Cadiz line that is built and opened in sections.

Urban railway tunnel through the city of San Fernando
By Canyailla


Works on the urban railway tunnel through the city of Puerto Real





Next set of pictures are from the Galician HSR line

By Regfa









these pictures shows the TBM:s in use for the urban railway tunnel through the city of Vigo
by Zoltan





This picture is taken east of the city of Zamora and shows the future HSR line between Madrid and Galicia, the northern section of this 400 km line is far more advanced as construction on that part begun 2004, I don't have any pictures from that part but there is a government information video showing some bridges and tunnels. http://video.adif.es/video/iLyROoafJkf5.html

by Aguirre Pablo


Next set of pictures are from the HSR line to the Asturias
The official government film for the line http://video.adif.es/video/iLyROoafJhYv.html
by Ekute








Apart from these HSR lines construction is also ongoing on a few other HSR lines:

Murcia - Almeria

Basque Y (ETA has declared war on this railway line and it remains to be seen if it will ever be opened)

Madrid - Jaen

Sevilla - Granada

Madrid - Lisbon

unfortunately I don't have any construction pics from these lines

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Assembling of the TBM to be used for the 5,5 km urban railtunnel through Barcelona that will link the Sants and the Sagrera stations.




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High speed trains : the Netherlands

Trains are running on the new line... unfortunately, the international links are still not operating.

http://www.expatica.com/nl/news/dutc...ice_57020.html

High-speed trains resume service

Passengers can now travel on the high-speed trains running between Amsterdam and Rotterdam.


Amsterdam – The train service on the Dutch high-speed rail link between Amsterdam and Rotterdam resumes Wednesday, says rail network supervisor ProRail.

The high-speed train services were halted Thursday after error messages were spotted on the signalling system last week.

The messages have now been traced to the strong electromagnetic fields generated by the overhead lines. The fields are interfering with the signals and point controls of the regular tracks, which run parallel to the high-speed tracks.

ProRail says the problem has been resolved.

Unlike regular train links that use 1,500 volt, the high-speed link uses 25,000 volt.

High-speed services between the Dutch capital and Rotterdam began on 7 September and shorten travelling time by 20 minutes.
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2009, 11:07 AM
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Hitachi Bullet Train to Challenge France’s TGV in Own Backyard

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By Chris Jasper

Nov. 26 (Bloomberg) -- Hitachi Ltd., maker of the 186 mile per hour (300 kph) Bullet Train, will bid against the French- built TGV on its home soil as the Japanese company targets a European rail market that’s the biggest in the world.

Hitachi, whose high-speed train sales in the region have been limited to the U.K., will offer the latest Shinkansen- series model to replace TGVs run by French state rail operator SNCF and built by Paris-based Alstom SA, said Mac Motraghi, head of sales at the Asian company’s European rail unit.

“We’re having informal discussions,” Motraghi said in an interview at Tokyo-based Hitachi’s depot in Ashford, England, where it services Javelin high-speed commuter units. “The French market has always been Alstom and perhaps our chances of winning there are not that great, but to be a serious rail player in Europe you have to get involved.”

Prospects for sales in France may be helped by concerns at SNCF about the cost of new rolling stock, the executive said, adding that the French company is expected to issue a request for bids next year. Hitachi will also compete for German orders to replace older versions of the ICE high-speed model made by Munich-based Siemens AG, Europe’s biggest engineering company.

“It’s out, now, that Hitachi are active here and we get approached by the train operating companies,” Motraghi said. “We see high speed expanding throughout Europe and we want to be a part of that. I think it’s very realistic.”

SNCF, or Societe Nationale des Chemins de Fer Francais, may issue a tender for a new generation of high-speed trains as early as next year, with the contract open to bids from any supplier, spokesman Philippe Mirville said by telephone. The company has more than 300 TGVs and 83 awaiting delivery.

Alstom said Hitachi may find it tough to penetrate a European market that’s complicated by the variety of railway systems and requirements for cross-border running.

“The Japanese industry is a very serious one and their ability and technology isn’t in doubt, but they will face some difficulties,” Jean-Noël Debroise, product-strategy manager at Alstom’s Transportation unit, said in a telephone interview today. “We know the customer better than them.”

Siemens has won five of eight contracts tendered since 2002 in the super-high speed segment for trains faster than 300 kph, giving it confidence in a product range led by the new Velaro model, spokeswoman Anja Uhlendorff said. Unlike the ICE, the Velaro was developed without a partner as the German company seeks to maximize its market share, she said.

The Shinkansen -- meaning “new main line” in Japanese and referring originally to the dedicated tracks on which it runs -- grabbed the world rail speed record on its introduction in 1964. The model was dubbed the “bullet train” overseas because of its then-unrivalled speed and streamlined design.

Busiest Network

The Japanese high-speed network is the world’s busiest, carrying 151 million people in the 12 months through March 2008, according to Central Japan Railway Co. TGVs run by SNCF moved 98 million passengers last year, its Web site says.

Alstom says it has built 70 percent of all trains able to travel at more than 300 kilometers per hour. The TGV, or Train a Grande Vitesse, was introduced in 1981, captured the speed record in 1990 and has held it ever since, setting a new high of 575 kph in 2006 using a modified vehicle running on a new railway line in eastern France.

Hitachi sold 29 Javelins to Go-Ahead Group Plc for use on the U.K. section of the Channel Tunnel rail link, the country’s only line able to carry trains at 140 mph or more, and to shift people from central London to the site of the 2012 Olympics. The new units will begin a full roster of U.K. services next month.

Open Market

Britain, with no major train manufacturer and a network run by listed companies, is Europe’s most open market and has provided a bridgehead for exports in the region, Motraghi said.

“Some of the markets in Europe are more mature than others, but there are new projects all the time,” he said. “Capacity needs to be expanded and rolling stock replaced, so there are plenty of opportunities. We are in Europe to stay.”

Hitachi will offer to build trains outside Japan for the first time in order to win orders, Motraghi said. The Javelin trains were exported from Tokyo but a U.K. contract for hundreds of units to replace 35-year-old High Speed Trains on routes from London will require a major manufacturing presence, he said.

Motraghi said the Japanese company is also encouraged by developments in the U.S., where the economic stimulus package passed by Congress in February included $8 billion to develop a high-speed network and President Barack Obama in April identified 10 potential corridors where the trains might run.

“We are a world player in railways and wherever there is a major project we would like to be involved in that,” he said. “The American market has its own challenges but we are more than happy to go in there.”

Given the size of the U.S. project, Hitachi is most likely to bid with its Shinkansen allies and a local partner, Motraghi said. SNCF said in September it may bid to build and run routes in California, Florida, Texas and Chicago.
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From The Times
November 28, 2009
Paris and Madrid sign joint-venture deal to create high-speed rail link
Graham Keeley Madrid

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle6935513.ece

Spain and France have agreed to form a company to build a high-speed train line linking Madrid and Paris.

Service on the line is expected to start in 2012 and make travelling to Spain by rail a day trip for Londoners.

The Eurostar to Paris now takes as little as 2 hours and 15 minutes. Allowing for some delay in crossing Paris, passengers will be able to board a high-speed train from the French capital to Madrid, stopping off in Lyon and Barcelona. The journey time between Paris and the Spanish capital is expected to be between 5 hours 30 minutes and 6 hours — depending on whether the service stops in Lyon and Barcelona, or proceeds directly from Paris to Madrid.

José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, the Spanish Prime Minister, and François Fillon, his French counterpart, agreed yesterday on the high-speed rail link between the two countries and the creation of an as-yet unnamed company to run it.

The company will be run jointly by Renfe, the Spanish state rail operator, and SNCF, the French rail operator, with each taking a 50 per cent stake. It will be operated from Spain. Renfe is planning to invest €300 million (£272 million), buying ten trains to service the new line.

Teófilo Serrano, president of Renfe, told Expansión, the Spanish business daily: “We need ten trains, which will be operating from 2012, when this new line is expected to be in service.”

Bids to supply the trains to run on the line will probably be invited next year. However, one factor that could delay the age of high-speed rail travel from London to the Iberian peninsula is that parts of the track have not yet been finished.

Although the high-speed AVE train from Madrid to Barcelona was completed last year, the link northwards to Figueras, near the French border, is still under construction and not expected to be completed until 2012.

On the French side of the border, work is still to begin on the high-speed rail link between Perpignan and Montpellier. After a meeting earlier this month, French and Spanish ministers agreed to invest €108 million on the new line between Figueras — the birthplace of Salvador Dalí, the Spanish artist — and Perpignan.

For Renfe, the high-speed link between Madrid and Paris will represent an important part of its strategy of international expansion. In a recent interview with The Times, Mr Serrano said that the Spanish rail operator would consider bidding for franchises in Britain in the medium term.

“This is a preliminary stage at present and we have not made any business study, but in the medium to long term we would consider bidding for any franchises,” he said. “Britain is a market which interests us.”

Renfe is bidding for contracts to run bullet trains between Medina and Mecca in Saudi Arabia and São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro in Brazil.

Meanwhile, a new high-speed rail link between Brussels and Amsterdam will reduce journey times between London and the Dutch city by 60 minutes to just more than four hours from December 13.

The opening of the new section of the European high-speed network, linking Brussels with Paris, Amsterdam and Cologne, will allow trains to travel at up to 188mph. Passengers will connect with the service in Brussels and arrive in Amsterdam 4 hours and 16 minutes after leaving St Pancras. A trip to Cologne will be 5 minutes faster.
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Madrid-Paris is a bit long for a HSR line. 5½-6 hours is a bit much when competing with airlines, isn't it? But I guess if they're going ahead with such an investment now that means they've looked at the numbers and found them to be profitable...
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Madrid-Paris is a bit long for a HSR line. 5½-6 hours is a bit much when competing with airlines, isn't it? But I guess if they're going ahead with such an investment now that means they've looked at the numbers and found them to be profitable...
But it's a 4 city stop run:
1) Paris
2) Lyon
3) Barcelona
4) Madrid

It's 5:30 to 6:00 hour run between Paris and Madrid, it's shorter between the other cities. Not everyone will be going all the way.

At least it provides a one seat ride. That's better than taking three individual trains
A) Paris to Lyon
B) Lyon to Barcelona
C) Barcelona to Madrid
It would take an additional hour longer if there was a half hour delay at every station while transferring between trains. An hour is being generous, the delays could have been longer.

I'll agree that 6 hours elapse time isn't going to make the airlines pull all flights between Madrid and Paris. I believe this train can attract businessmen who wish to travel directly between the central business districts without having the hazzles getting to and from the airports.....

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By Chris Jasper

Nov. 26 (Bloomberg) -- Hitachi Ltd., maker of the 186 mile per hour (300 kph) Bullet Train, will bid against the French- built TGV on its home soil as the Japanese company targets a European rail market that’s the biggest in the world.

Hitachi will offer to build trains outside Japan for the first time in order to win orders, Motraghi said. The Javelin trains were exported from Tokyo but a U.K. contract for hundreds of units to replace 35-year-old High Speed Trains on routes from London will require a major manufacturing presence, he said.
Europe's Shinkansen

A class 395 at Gravesend station - Europe's first Shinkansen trains - these trains can run on third rail and under electrified lines allowing services to serve more destinations and cutting journey times.

Journey times to London St Pancras from Gravesend via the Southeastern Highspeed service is 20mins, compared to 40-60mins on the former fast services.



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I love how Britain isn't shy about painting its trains deep bold colors.
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But it's a 4 city stop run:
1) Paris
2) Lyon
3) Barcelona
4) Madrid

It's 5:30 to 6:00 hour run between Paris and Madrid, it's shorter between the other cities. Not everyone will be going all the way.

At least it provides a one seat ride. That's better than taking three individual trains
A) Paris to Lyon
B) Lyon to Barcelona
C) Barcelona to Madrid
It would take an additional hour longer if there was a half hour delay at every station while transferring between trains. An hour is being generous, the delays could have been longer.

I'll agree that 6 hours elapse time isn't going to make the airlines pull all flights between Madrid and Paris. I believe this train can attract businessmen who wish to travel directly between the central business districts without having the hazzles getting to and from the airports.....
I agree, 6 hours is way too long to compete against flight. The shorter runs are definately more viable. I guess the only missing link then is the Lyon to Barcelona.

As for Paris to Madrid, I'd prefer a slow over night train with private sleeping berths than a fast 6 hour train with only a seat. Especially if they use those horrible facing seats seen so often on trains.
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europe need more high speed railways. just arrived in copenhagen after 14 hrs on a train from brussels. that is way too long. anyway, the international railway union's (www.uic.org) pr gimmick in front of cop15 was cool, check it out at www.traintocopenhagen.com!
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From what I read on SSC, Germany and Denmark are slow on investing in HSR lines.
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From what I read on SSC, Germany and Denmark are slow on investing in HSR lines.
Well, Denmark's capital Copenhagen is on an island, separated from the rest of Europe by two tunnel/bridges using shared rail lines with freight trains. The really, really fast passenger trains in Europe run mostly on exclusive rails. Even they slow down significantly on shared tracks.



So, I'm not surprised Denmark's passenger trains aren't very fast. Although Denmark's passenger trains can run at top speeds of 200km/h (124mph).
The Danish railway currently has a severe shortage of long-distance diesel trains since their new IC4, with features similar to the ICE-TD, has also been ill-fated and severely delayed in delivery. The ICE-TD can have lower operational cost for this traffic, since diesel for train usage has lower tax in Denmark, and the trains fill their tanks there.

As for Germany, take a look at this map.

Red > High-speed lines for 300 km/h (186 mph)
Orange > High-speed lines for 250 to 280 km/h (156 to 175 mph)
Blue > Upgraded lines, 200 to 230 km/h (125 to 145 mph)
Grey > Other lines, max. 160 km/h (100 mph)

The German rail lines heading for Denmark aren't that fast either.....
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Berlin to Frankfurt looks like a weak link in Germany's HSR network. Was there at one time, a proposed mag-lev line between Berlin and Frankfurt? Are there any current plans for HSR upgrades to this route?
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I agree, 6 hours is way too long to compete against flight. The shorter runs are definately more viable. I guess the only missing link then is the Lyon to Barcelona.

As for Paris to Madrid, I'd prefer a slow over night train with private sleeping berths than a fast 6 hour train with only a seat. Especially if they use those horrible facing seats seen so often on trains.
Well today 6 hours are to much but if the airfares would rise 100-200% then many would take the train instead. Although I don't see a Madrid-Paris service running anywhere close to 6h anytime soon (2020 maybe), the trains would have to average 270-280km/h.

In the future I hope they will establish some sort of TEE service so one can hop on a train in one country and the travel across europe on a single fare.
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http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE5BC0KT20091213

Brussels to Amsterdam high-speed rail line opens
Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:37am GMT

By Greg Roumeliotis

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - A new high-speed rail line linking Brussels to Amsterdam opened on Sunday, a showcase project in European plans to promote fast trains as an environmentally friendly alternative to air travel.

With trains on the line reaching speeds of up to 300 kph, travellers can now save 49 minutes and be in Brussels just 1 hour and 53 minutes after departing Amsterdam.

The travel time by rail between Cologne and Brussels will be cut by half an hour to 1 hour and 47 minutes.

Thalys, the train operator owned by France's railway SNCF, its Belgian counterpart SNCB and Deutsche Bahn, says it expects a 65 percent rise in traffic between Pais and Amsterdam by 2013.

Much of this will be due to passengers abandoning cars and airplanes in favour of the fast, environmentally friendly trains, Thalys says. It hopes the allure of high-speed rail will result in an extra 500,000 passengers in 2010.

Onboard the inaugural morning run, musicians with guitars and accordions sang French tunes to passengers as the driver proclaimed on speakers the train had hit a speed of 300 kph.

With rail travel accounting for less than 1 percent of the European transport sector's greenhouse gas emissions, governments are keen to promote high-speed rail as a clean alternative to air travel.

The new line will cut the travel time by rail between Amsterdam and Paris to 3 hours and 18 minutes, two hours more than a journey by air, albeit at a cheaper price and without the delays and congestion of airport security.

Several countries such as France and Portugal have launched procurement programmes in high-speed rail as they seek to stimulate their construction sector and upgrade their transport infrastructure.

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europe need more high speed railways. just arrived in copenhagen after 14 hrs on a train from brussels. that is way too long. anyway, the international railway union's (www.uic.org) pr gimmick in front of cop15 was cool, check it out at www.traintocopenhagen.com!
Hmmm.. then fly. It's quicker for those long distances. HSR is meant for shorter distances.
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I have a question: regarding HSR between France and Spain, since France's TGV network uses standard gauge and Spanish and Portuguese rail uses this weird thing called "Iberian gauge", does the Spanish HSR conform to traditional Spanish gauge or to standard gauge? And if it conforms to the Iberian gauge, how would a Lyon-Madrid run or Marseilles-Barcelona run be effected without a gauge change in the Pyrenees?

As for Copenhagen and HSR, getting HSR to and through Copenhagen is incredibly difficult, as it is on a island chain dividing the North and Baltic Seas. Even so, as the whole European network gets knitted together, the HSR run of Hamburg-Kiel-Copenhagen-Stockholm becomes more and more of a priority. Given Denmark's size, and the relative importance of this corridor linking Scandinavia with the rest of Europe, if we see any traction on this line, it would (due to the logistics of having to effectively build a bridge-tunnel network of unprecedented length through one of the major metros of Europe) be a transnational effort, at least involving Denmark, Sweden, and Germany if not Norway and perhaps the whole Baltic region as well.
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I have a question: regarding HSR between France and Spain, since France's TGV network uses standard gauge and Spanish and Portuguese rail uses this weird thing called "Iberian gauge", does the Spanish HSR conform to traditional Spanish gauge or to standard gauge? And if it conforms to the Iberian gauge, how would a Lyon-Madrid run or Marseilles-Barcelona run be effected without a gauge change in the Pyrenees?
It is only the old network in Spain and Portugal that has Iberian gauge. the new HSR lines that have been built (Madrid-Barcelona), (Madrid-Valladolid), (Madrid-Seville) and (Córdoba-Malaga) all have standard gauge, and all the future ones are beeing built with standard gauge. Spain has decided on a global gauge conversion to standard gauge, until all line have been either renovated, uppgraded or reconstructed they use trains that can run on both gauges to get the most out of the new lines.

This is how it is done in practise, as you can see in this clip there are actually two different systems in use, in the first half of the clip you see a Talgo running through the gauge changer, then in the second half of the clip you see a CAF train running though the gauge changer.

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It is only the old network in Spain and Portugal that has Iberian gauge. the new HSR lines that have been built (Madrid-Barcelona), (Madrid-Valladolid), (Madrid-Seville) and (Córdoba-Malaga) all have standard gauge, and all the future ones are beeing built with standard gauge. Spain has decided on a global gauge conversion to standard gauge, until all line have been either renovated, uppgraded or reconstructed they use trains that can run on both gauges to get the most out of the new lines.

This is how it is done in practise, as you can see in this clip there are actually two different systems in use, in the first half of the clip you see a Talgo running through the gauge changer, then in the second half of the clip you see a CAF train running though the gauge changer.

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Much more sophisticated than how they change the gage for the Trans-Siberian going from China to Russia ...
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