Winnipeg | Osborne Village & Corydon area

[Gravity Wins]

Here's the video link you wanted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8v2p8en3ek

[OTA in Winnipeg]

^But would it deter meth users or compel them to smash the windows. That's the question. Because they already like smashing windows.

[BlackDog204]

I find it interesting that this idea originated by a fellow Canadian 7-Eleven district manager in the 1980s. At any rate, I found this research paper from the UK on the phenomenon:


"The practice is thought to have begun in 1985, when a branch manager of a 7-Eleven convenience stores in Canadian province of British Colombia began broadcasting ‘classical’and ‘easy listening’ music into the store’s parking lot to prevent teenagers from congregating there. (Hirsch, 2006) In the US and Canada, classical music has been used as a deterrent onpublic transport systems (the regional transit department in Portland broadcasts instrumental music and opera at its light rail stations, for example, allegedly resulting in a reduction of service calls for help); as well as also in library foyers (Central Library in London, Ontario has used Vivaldi to deter smokers and other loiterers); and outside shops. (Turner, 2010; Joy,
2013)

Classical music has been deployed in similar spaces in the UK. In 1997 the Tyne and Wear Metro in the north east of England began broadcasting music by the composer Fredrick Delius at some of their stations to target what was described as ‘low level antisocial behaviour’, such as smoking and swearing. Speaking in 2005, the General Director of the Tyne and Wear Passenger Transport Executive (Nexus) Mike Palmer stated the aim of the music was ‘to provide a background of music that people who we are aiming at don't actually like and so they move away.’ (Jackson, 2005) The music was described as creating a ‘winwin’ situation: (alleged) troublemakers were driven out, while other passengers found the music helped pass time whilst waiting for their next train.

Following the Tyne and Wear metro, Transport for London began broadcasting operatic and instrumental music at forty London Underground stations after a trial period at Elm Park starting in 2003. During the 18-month trial, they reported a 33% decrease in robberies, a 25% decrease in assaults on staff, and a 37% decrease in vandalism. (Duchen, 2008) The Underground’s 40-hour playlist, which is curated by the subcontracter I Like Music (previously BroadChart), consists of melodic music from the eighteenth and nineteenth century; and includes recordings of works by composers including Handel, Beethoven, Schubert, Vivaldi, Tchaikovsky, Prokofiev and
Liszt."

source: https://oro.open.ac.uk/72358/1/To%20...ccepted%20.pdf

[cllew]

When the city admin tired doing that with noise emitters under a few Winnipeg bridges in spring of 2020 to keep the homeless away it was quickly discontinued after political pressure from homeless groups who said it was "cruel and pointless".

[zalf]

Three factors that make that case different: there is a difference between playing music that junkies don't like and a deliberately irritating buzz; the buzz was loud enough to also irritate rent-paying neighbours; and there is a philosophical difference, even if the result is the same, between a government trying to drive off its own citizens from public property versus a private entity choosing what music, if any, to play.

[Jeff]

indigenous-led economic/building renewal is certainly becoming a force to be reckoned with in this town..

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...lock-1.7270433

[FactaNV]

Originally Posted by Jeff

indigenous-led economic/building renewal is certainly becoming a force to be reckoned with in this town..

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...lock-1.7270433

Unlimited coffers haha

[Jeff]

whatever gets some of these languishing properties over the finish line!

[FactaNV]

Originally Posted by Jeff

whatever gets some of these languishing properties over the finish line!

I thank federal tax payers profusely for their urban renewal investments in Winnipeg's core. 😂😂

[EdwardTH]

Originally Posted by FactaNV

I thank federal tax payers profusely for their urban renewal investments in Winnipeg's core. 😂😂

Lmao wypipo acting like the entire Canadian economy wasn't built on appropriated resources

It's the First Nation's money. They are entitled to the measly dividends we give them in exchange for taking trillions of dollars of resources.

[FactaNV]

Originally Posted by EdwardTH

Lmao wypipo acting like the entire Canadian economy wasn't built on appropriated resources

It's the First Nation's money. They are entitled to the measly dividends we give them in exchange for taking trillions of dollars of resources.

Simply an observation of where the money is coming from. No need for a value judgement. Historical context isn't overly relevant to the comment. I gotta wypipo is an interesting one I've never seen before lol, legit made me chuckle.

[Unbending]

145 Osborne

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...rook-1.7272000

[FactaNV]

Originally Posted by Unbending

145 Osborne

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...rook-1.7272000

Anyone have an inside scoop on who may be interested in this corner?

[cllew]

I wonder what happened to cause the sale of the land in 2021 to a numbered company to fall through?

In June 2021 there was a proposed sale for $1.6 million to 10090710 Manitoba Limited. That was the highest of 5 offers for the property the city received. The appraised value at that time was about $800,000 and the top 3 offers were over that.

[bomberjet]

Maybe the contaminated nature of the site was worse than the City had expected.

I remember this from back in 2021. But can't remember if it was just the sale that we noticed or there was more to it.

[cllew]

I did a quick search when I posted and there was nothing more about the lot until the tender for the remediation came up from what the media is reporting.

I thought that maybe it was one of the 2021 purchasers conditions of sale items but apparently not as it appears its for sale again.

I was surprised to see that its lowest tender bid is around $253,000 to clean up a small lot like that. I don't know why but I was thinking maybe 60 to 70,000 to dig it up and put in some temporary fill that will just be dug out when the foundation work starts.

[1ajs]

Remediation ain't cheap u need a study and then a proposal that's engineered then u need to apply for ur license and find certified contractors to do it then u need a place to disposw of the soil it gets crazy depending what ur dealing with

[cllew]

This was the remediation price. The level 1 and 2 reports had already been done so if those were added on it is not an inexpensive process.

Listening to the area councilor on the CBC news at dinner time she said something about there was a delay with Manitoba Environment on reviewing the remediation plan, so I wonder if the original winning bidder from 2021 is still interested in the property or if not is the city working there way down to bidder 2 or 3 as they were over the estimated value.

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by EdwardTH

Lmao wypipo acting like the entire Canadian economy wasn't built on appropriated resources

What is with your obsession with hating Caucasians anyway?

"Wypipo" is yet another of your racial slurs (and an immature one at that).

[Justanothermember]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

What is with your obsession with hating Caucasians anyway?

"Wypipo" is yet another of your racial slurs (and an immature one at that).

Ah now I see it. This guy has said some pretty racist things regarding white people in the past; it looks more and more like he does indeed hates white people. These comments are generally following any commentary regarding natives, so I suspect he is of aboriginal descent.