St.George Metro:Official Development News Thread

[Future Mayor]

I still like the name University of Utah Dixie. Along the sames lines as the California University system. University of California Los Angeles, UC Berkley, UC Santa Barbara, etc.

Wisconsin has a similar method. U of Wisconsin is the big one we all know about but they also have other universities in other cities throughout the state. UW Menomonie, UW Superior, etc

I do also like St George University, it does sound a bit like a private Catholic school though.

[wrendog]

Originally Posted by Future Mayor

I still like the name University of Utah Dixie. Along the sames lines as the California University system. University of California Los Angeles, UC Berkley, UC Santa Barbara, etc.

Wisconsin has a similar method. U of Wisconsin is the big one we all know about but they also have other universities in other cities throughout the state. UW Menomonie, UW Superior, etc

I do also like St George University, it does sound a bit like a private Catholic school though.

Plenty of states do that, not just Wisconsin and CA...

See:
Nevada Las Vegas
Nevada Reno
Colorado Boulder
Colorado Pueblo
Texas Austin
Texas El Paso
Texas San Antonio
Tennessee Knoxville
Tennessee Chattanooga
Minnesota Minneapolis
Minnesota Duluth
Alabama Tuscaloosa
Alabama Birmingham
Missouri Columbia
Missouri KC


Just off the top of my head. Many more examples. UofU Dixie would be fine.

[wrendog]

Dixie State University it is

https://twitter.com/kslnewsradio/sta...39615866712065

[tygr]

I'm just glad they didn't add the "of Utah" to it.

Now let's just hope they abandon that "Red Storm" mascot and its equally pitiful design though.

[SLC Projects]

Why does every school have to be a four year University? Besides SLCC are there even two year colleges left?

[Future Mayor]

Snow College. That's it, those are the only Junior Colleges left in Utah. CEU is part of Utah State.

I don't have a problem with so many school now being 4 year Universities, especially since our population continues to grow. I do think that there should be a few more Junior Colleges added to the state roster though. Put them in smaller towns, like Dixie was, and Snow is. Maybe put something in Heber, Tooele, Kanab, Panguitch, or somewhere like that. I wish Moab would get a jc, but it will be a USU extension instead. Red Rock Junior College, Home of the Gila Monsters

Placing JC's in these communities give local students and option, and gives more options to other students. I loved my Freshman year at Snow.

[StevenF]

Future Mayor, there is an off shoot of UVU in the Heber Valley. I have also heard Snow collage wants to go to a 4 year school. So even Snow is feeling the pressure of growth and wants to allow for more students and more programs.

[Stenar]

Originally Posted by wrendog

dixie state university it is

https://twitter.com/kslnewsradio/sta...39615866712065

lame!

[TonyAnderson]

It would be interesting to see our universities per population compared to other states. We're probably the very top.

[Reachforthesky]

Originally Posted by wrendog

Dixie State University it is

https://twitter.com/kslnewsradio/sta...39615866712065

Really?? University of St. George,Saint George University, Heck even St. George State University sound much more prestigious!! and would go a long way as far as a national presence! Plus "Dixie" Just makes the school sound like a hillbilly university, and lets not forget the negative connotations attached to "Dixie" also! Confederacy,Slavery,etc. Sounds like the school just paid Sorenson ( the group polling names) a bunch of money just to tell them what they wanted to hear.

[scottharding]

Originally Posted by Future Mayor

Snow College. That's it, those are the only Junior Colleges left in Utah. CEU is part of Utah State.

I don't have a problem with so many school now being 4 year Universities, especially since our population continues to grow. I do think that there should be a few more Junior Colleges added to the state roster though. Put them in smaller towns, like Dixie was, and Snow is. Maybe put something in Heber, Tooele, Kanab, Panguitch, or somewhere like that. I wish Moab would get a jc, but it will be a USU extension instead. Red Rock Junior College, Home of the Gila Monsters

Placing JC's in these communities give local students and option, and gives more options to other students. I loved my Freshman year at Snow.

Heber already has a UVU campus. Tooele would be a good spot for a 2-year school probably.

[SLC Projects]

I don't think "Dixie" is raciest at all. I don't mind them keeping "Dixie" in the name.

[Stenar]

Originally Posted by SLC Projects

I don't think "Dixie" is raciest at all. I don't mind them keeping "Dixie" in the name.

Yes, Dixie is totally racist. Dixie is the name of the confederate flag, the name of the confederate anthem and the name of the slave-owning region of the U.S., that fought to keep slaves.

"Dixie, in essence, celebrates slavery, and plays into racist beliefs that once gave comfort to slave owners who desperately needed to believe that all blacks longed for bondage.... Scores of wonderful things have come out of the South that don't carry the racist baggage of Dixie and the Confederate flag." —Jacksonville.com

"Albert Washington Collins, one of Washington County's, [Utah] first sheriffs, openly recounted raping and killing disobedient blacks. Robert Dockery Covington, the leader of the Cotton Mission, owned eight slaves at a plantation in Mississippi before joining the LDS Church... and coming west [to Utah's 'Dixie']." —Wikipedia

"As a definite geographic location within the United States, 'Dixie' is usually defined as the 11 Southern states that seceded to form the Confederate States of America." —Wikipedia

"Today, [Dixie] is most often associated with those parts of the Southern United States where traditions and legacies of the Confederate experience and the Antebellum South live most strongly." —Wikipedia

[jtrent77]

Originally Posted by Stenar

Yes, Dixie is totally racist. Dixie is the name of the confederate flag, the name of the confederate anthem and the name of the slave-owning region of the U.S., that fought to keep slaves.

"Dixie, in essence, celebrates slavery, and plays into racist beliefs that once gave comfort to slave owners who desperately needed to believe that all blacks longed for bondage.... Scores of wonderful things have come out of the South that don't carry the racist baggage of Dixie and the Confederate flag." —Jacksonville.com

"Albert Washington Collins, one of Washington County's, [Utah] first sheriffs, openly recounted raping and killing disobedient blacks. Robert Dockery Covington, the leader of the Cotton Mission, owned eight slaves at a plantation in Mississippi before joining the LDS Church... and coming west [to Utah's 'Dixie']." —Wikipedia

"As a definite geographic location within the United States, 'Dixie' is usually defined as the 11 Southern states that seceded to form the Confederate States of America." —Wikipedia

"Today, [Dixie] is most often associated with those parts of the Southern United States where traditions and legacies of the Confederate experience and the Antebellum South live most strongly." —Wikipedia

Yeah I hate when people say they are going to "the South" cause clearly they are referring to those racist states that are pro-slavery.

[Stenar]

Originally Posted by jtrent77

Yeah I hate when people say they are going to "the South" cause clearly they are referring to those racist states that are pro-slavery.

"The South" refers to a geographic region. This region has modernized and become less racist as a whole. The term "Dixie" is not synonymous with "the South," but refers to those who still identify with the old, Antebellum, Confederate, racist South.

[jtrent77]

Originally Posted by Stenar

"The South" refers to a geographic region. This region has modernized and become less racist as a whole. The term "Dixie" is not synonymous with "the South," but refers to those who still identify with the old, Antebellum, Confederate, racist South.

So Dixieland Jazz is racist jazz, and the Dixie Chicks are an awful racist group of women, and Dixie cups...

Yes, I understand that some people see the term as racist, but 1) it is not a universal decision and 2) I see it as dumb. Whenever I hear it, I think of 'the South.'

But more to the point, the area of Utah called Dixie was done so because it was growing Cotton and was much warmer than the rest of Utah. While some people there may have been former slave owners, they were FORMER slave owners. To anyone outside of Utah having an area in Utah called Dixie isn't going to make them think of the the Confederate South because Utah isn't in the South, and was not involved in the Civil War at all.

[Bob The Builder]

Originally Posted by jtrent77

So Dixieland Jazz is racist jazz, and the Dixie Chicks are an awful racist group of women, and Dixie cups...

Yes, I understand that some people see the term as racist, but 1) it is not a universal decision and 2) I see it as dumb. Whenever I hear it, I think of 'the South.'

But more to the point, the area of Utah called Dixie was done so because it was growing Cotton and was much warmer than the rest of Utah. While some people there may have been former slave owners, they were FORMER slave owners. To anyone outside of Utah having an area in Utah called Dixie isn't going to make them think of the the Confederate South because Utah isn't in the South, and was not involved in the Civil War at all.

Agreed it isn't racist. I have people in my office that are from the South & North East and NONE of them said that it would be considered racist; and one of them is black. He too thought the whole thing was dumb.
The word 'Dixie' started in the south came from a privately issued currency originally from the Citizens State Bank located in the French Quarter of New Orleans. These banks issued ten-dollar notes labeled "Dix", French for "ten", on the reverse side. The notes were known as "Dixies" by English-speaking southerners. Then word Dixie came about to refer to those southern states that had the 'Dixe' bank notes.
The word Dixie is used all the time; Dixe Cups, Dixie Chicks, Dixie Beer, The TV Show 'The Heart Of Dixie', ect. We don't see any of them changing their names.

[Future Mayor]

Agreed. Utah's Dixie, as in Utah South, Those saying it's racist IMO are making it sound like it's called Confederate University.

[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by Future Mayor

Agreed. Utah's Dixie, as in Utah South, Those saying it's racist IMO are making it sound like it's called Confederate University.

Or better yet....."KKK University".

[Stenar]

Originally Posted by Bob The Builder

The word 'Dixie' started in the south came from a privately issued currency originally from the Citizens State Bank located in the French Quarter of New Orleans. These banks issued ten-dollar notes labeled "Dix", French for "ten", on the reverse side. The notes were known as "Dixies" by English-speaking southerners. Then word Dixie came about to refer to those southern states that had the 'Dixe' bank notes.

1) The theory that the term Dixie comes from the bank notes has been refuted by experts.

2) New Orleans was the only place that had Dix bank notes, not the entire South.