The Official Moncton, NB Project Thread - Page 188

Jerry556 · #**3741** Posted **Jan 2, 2009, 9:32 PM**

Are they still planning to finish Emerson park, kose they had like 7 or 8 buildings proposed for it, and they already built 3, but you always see lease signs there? are they maybe considering not going ahead with the rest?
does anybody know whats going on with the lot on st George that was foe sale 3 or 4 months ago behing the bus garage(near sharky pawn shop)??

mylesmalley · #**3742** Posted **Jan 2, 2009, 10:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by Bedford_DJ

Good point. I don't incude things like road upgrades unless they are significant and include other upgrades like underground power lines.

At last count I had around 53 projects listed.

It's actually not that specific. The only road upgrades I mention are the realignment of Paul Street and the complete rebuilding of Mapleton Road. However, mine does list some things like the skate park expansion, a few strip malls, and the renovations to the old Hawk building-all of which are probably under 100k.

mylesmalley · #**3743** Posted **Jan 2, 2009, 10:30 PM**

Jerry, i think they're building the lots at Emerson as they find tennants for them. However, since they're such large buildings, they tend to have a pretty significant impact on the commercial rental rate in the area. i.e. they probably need to wait a year or two before demand exists to fill another one.

David_99 · #**3744** Posted **Jan 3, 2009, 2:41 AM**

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Originally Posted by mylesmalley

Jerry, i think they're building the lots at Emerson as they find tennants for them. However, since they're such large buildings, they tend to have a pretty significant impact on the commercial rental rate in the area. i.e. they probably need to wait a year or two before demand exists to fill another one.

A few years ago I had heard a (baseless) rumour that the original plan was to place most, if not all, of the major call centres of Moncton in emerson park. I remember this had me excited because I thought the land that is currently used by the Rogers call centre and parking lot could really be used for something more worth while for downtown. I had actually thought this might come true, until Rogers put the money into expanding their building...

I see Asurion has since replaced AOL in Emerson. I wonder if any of the other centres will follow suit.

Jerry556 · #**3745** Posted **Jan 3, 2009, 2:55 PM**

Did they already expand the rogers all center downtown?? didn't notice.

mmmatt · #**3746** Posted **Jan 3, 2009, 3:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jerry556

Did they already expand the rogers all center downtown?? didn't notice.

Yep, they did it this past summer. They hired on about 100 new people as well.

MonctonRad · #**3747** Posted **Jan 3, 2009, 3:37 PM**

I have taken the liberty of reprinting "The Sleuth" in nearly it's entirety from the T&T today. I think it neatly summarizes what will be happening in Moncton in terms of more high profile projects over the course of the next year.

The Sleuth

Welcome to a new year, a year sure to be filled with healthy doses of juicy gossip, deep dark rumours and fearless predictions. Since it is the beginning of the year, Sleuth feels it is time to dust off his ancient crystal ball and peer deep into its secrets. Here's what it says for 2009:

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In the City of Moncton, Sleuth sees progress on some major redevelopment projects over the next 12 months.

Look for real, visible construction on our long-awaited provincial justice centre. We should also hear news early in 2009 on a new provincial jail for southeast New Brunswick. The ugly concrete bunker on Assomption Boulevard will be gone by the end of 2010, Sleuth hears.

Also stay tuned for some major work on the city's trail system. Sleuth hears there's a five-year plan afoot to eventually link all of the city's major parks -- Centennial, Riverfront, Mapleton and Irishtown -- so walkers, runners, hikers and cyclists can travel the city by trail.

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Regarding development, watch for some new stores in the Mapleton Power Centre to finally appear by this summer. There had been a few hush-hush rumours the economic downturn might delay retail expansion, but Sleuth hears that most of the stores previously committed to the next phase of development in the Trinity area are going forward.

Two huge downtown residential complexes will also start to take shape in 2009 -- both done by local developer Valmond Robichaud. A $10 million condo high-rise with retail on the ground floor will be built on East Main Street between Harper's Lane and King Street. Another huge residential complex of either condos or apartments will encompass the entire block bordered by Dominion, High and Gordon.

The big question heading into next year is the fate of the much-anticipated downtown Metro Centre.

A firm that has done similar work for the Corel Centre in Ottawa and the Labatt Centre in London, Ont. has been hired to prepare a business plan. The results are expected by the end of March. That'd be just about the time Ottawa and the province start looking at submissions for infrastructure funding.

Sleuth hears it may be too much to expect construction to start this year, but it is very likely all of the building blocks will be in place by the end of the year to begin construction in 2010.

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On the entertainment scene in Metro, Sleuth sees only good things in 2009.

Inside sources at the Moncton Coliseum say music fans can expect at least 10 good shows there this year. It will be pretty quiet through January and February -- mostly because few acts are touring in those months. But things will heat up starting with the Great Big Sea/Spirit of the West show in early March.

The centerpiece of the city's entertainment year will, of course, be not one, but two, concerts this summer at Magnetic Hill Concert Site. After so much talk and backroom wheeling-and-dealing, it would be a mighty big surprise at this point if AC/DC didn't make a stop at the Hill. As for the second show, Sleuth has been sworn to secrecy but he can say the main act would be a big hit with the younger crowd.

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In Dieppe, the long-awaited Dieppe Aquatic Centre will finally open after months of delays and cost overruns. This project will go down in history as a classic example of how not to build municipal infrastructure. Mayor Jean LeBlanc will invite former Mayor Achille Maillet to perform a belly flop to christen the new stainless steel pool.

In Riverview, it'll be business as usual. Or is that little business as usual?

Town council is desperate to see some development along the new Gunningsville Boulevard. It is good they are a patient bunch because it doesn't look good for any major announcements in 2009. But as the old movie line goes: "If you build it, they will come" (eventually).

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This year will be the start of some fantastic seasons for Metro's sports fans. Look for the Moncton Wildcats to make a deep run in the QMJHL playoffs. And if they don't make it all the way this spring, this talented team is still in building mode for a real run in 2009-2010.

The highlight of the year will be the Ford Men's World Curling Championship April 4-12. Metro will show again it can pull off world events with class.

That sets the stage for the 2010's IAAF World Track and Field Championships and regular season games of Canadian Football League.

Looking into my own crystal ball, I'm beginning to believe in the possibility of as many as four tower cranes in Moncton in 2009.
- new provincial justice complex
- casino hotel
- Robichaud commercial/condo complex on east Main
- Robichaud condo/apts on High & Gordon

MonctonRad · #**3748** Posted **Jan 3, 2009, 4:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by mylesmalley

Good problem to have, MonctonRad!

There are 82 points on the map at the moment. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say there's probably another 30 or so that I haven't included yet.

I'm thinking of adding an extra category for rumours. Got any other suggestions?

I perused your map. Here are some projects that you didn't include:

- Microtel Motel (proposed), Homestead Rd. near intersection with Mountain Rd.
- NBCC Moncton (planned), $20M redevelopment/expansion
- Ryan Road widening and reconfiguration (under construction)
- Evergreen Drive extension (under construction)
- Sobeys on Harrisville Blvd. (proposed)
- new condos at Royal Oaks (completed)

I'm sure that there are other projects to include but I can't think of them right now.

A big problem for this thread is that we tend to ignore activity in the three industrial parks and there is a lot going on there right now, especially at Caledonia. I wonder if any of the correspondents to this thread would be interested in looking after industrial developments?

mmmatt · #**3749** Posted **Jan 3, 2009, 4:16 PM**

Thanks for the article MonctonRad

Sounds like the Sleuth belongs on our forum...He seems to have the same ideas as us at the moment.

He seems very optomistic about the new downtown arena plan, construction as early as 2010?!! That seems very soon to me, but hey I wouldnt complain

And AC/DC?!!!!!!!

I would basically die if that turns out to be true haha. I know its been a rumour forever, but I never saw any real action...so I wont get my hopes up, but then again I doubted the Eagles last year...and I can personally say they were here, and they were amazing! It would be great to see two large concerts this year as well...the more the merrier for sure.

I also agree with you about the cranes, 2009 is shaping up to be a record year for downtown construction...very exciting indeed

mylesmalley · #**3750** Posted **Jan 3, 2009, 7:41 PM**

MonctonRad, thanks for the help! The map is definitely still a work in progress, and as soon as I get a few minutes I'll add those. I've started to include some of the industrial park projects, though I mainly only know the Dieppe park, as that's where I work.

I am completely indifferent on the AC/DC thing, however they seem to be incredibly popular in this part of the province for some reason.

As for the Sleuth, it wouldnt' surprise me if he checks this board from time to time. We're a pretty good source for all the juicy gossip development-wise.

mmmatt · #**3751** Posted **Jan 3, 2009, 8:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by mylesmalley

I am completely indifferent on the AC/DC thing, however they seem to be incredibly popular in this part of the province for some reason.

AC/DC is up there with the best rock bands of all time, the Rolling Stones and the Eagles are up there as well. If Metallica came along too (highly doubtful, but they are also on tour at the moment) it would easily be the best and biggest concert at the Hill to date...it may be the biggest with just AC/DC alone

Obviously they are not for everyone, but they can draw a huge crowd (the majority of their tour dates for the next year are already sold out), and they put on a great show...I watched a few shows of theirs on DVD and they are amazing on stage, they were easily the best act at the SARS relief concert in TO a few years ago.

JasonL-Moncton · #**3752** Posted **Jan 3, 2009, 9:11 PM**

Myles the North End school on your map is in the wrong place, it's actually closer to the intersection of Ryan and Augusta terrace. On your map you can see a large 'cleared' area in the trees between Ryan and Rural Estates Dr, between Augusta and Timberline Way, in that area....it's going there, it's right behind my friends house.

mylesmalley · #**3753** Posted **Jan 3, 2009, 9:20 PM**

I just prefer bands who's songs don't all sound the same :p.

jk

mmmatt · #**3754** Posted **Jan 3, 2009, 9:23 PM**

Speaking of schools there is also that private school being built in Valhalla (2 or 3 floors I believe). And also there is a plan to build a new school to replace Gunningsville elementery in Riverview.

mmmatt · #**3755** Posted **Jan 3, 2009, 9:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by mylesmalley

I just prefer bands who's songs don't all sound the same :p.

jk

hahaha!

True to a point I suppose, but Id say most bands have the same problem...save Wilco and a few others.

Back on the development topic, I hope the city continues to invest in infrastructure for the concert site, the biggest issue I saw at the Eagles concert was the lines for the bathroom...with over 100,000 cans of beer having been consumed its no wonder either haha. I think they should build a lot more permanent bathroom facilities. Also having some sort of permanent gate set up would be nice too, the temp ones just looked so thrown together...not inviting...more like you were entering a prison than a concert. That being said the majority of things were handled very well, but there is always room for improvement.

MonctonRad · #**3756** Posted **Jan 3, 2009, 10:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by mmmatt

Speaking of schools there is also that private school being built in Valhalla (2 or 3 floors I believe). And also there is a plan to build a new school to replace Gunningsville elementery in Riverview.

The private Lutheran school is currently under construction on Hildegarde Drive, right next to the Lutheran Church.

The replacement school for Gunningsville is very necessary (especially with the growth in east Riverview) but at present time can not be considered as anything more than wishful thinking.

And Myles, I agree with Jason-L, the proper location for the new north end school is on Ryan road at the intersection with Augusta Terrace, That is where it is going to be built.

mylesmalley · #**3757** Posted **Jan 3, 2009, 10:24 PM**

I kindof figured that. Seeing as the location I put it would have left it right next to a major highway.

riverviewer · #**3758** Posted **Jan 4, 2009, 12:52 AM**

Can I make a suggestion for the map? Can we add a footnote to each overlay comment that would have a number for the forum page that the project is discussed, or a picture is displayed? This would help give detail to the map and help us keep track of where everything is in this growing forum.

bam63 · #**3759** Posted **Jan 4, 2009, 2:34 AM**

Papa John's pizza is advertising opening soon and accepting resumes on Kijiji.These guys are big in the states and i think will be the first in new brunswick.
Little Ceaser's are supposed to open a second outlet in the new strip mall next to nbcc.
Hope ya'll like pizza!

MonctonRad · #**3760** Posted **Jan 4, 2009, 3:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by bam63

Papa John's pizza is advertising opening soon and accepting resumes on Kijiji.These guys are big in the states and i think will be the first in new brunswick.
Little Ceaser's are supposed to open a second outlet in the new strip mall next to nbcc.
Hope ya'll like pizza!

Pizza Pizza!!!!

Thanks for the info bam63. We now have two confirmed tenants for the NBCC strip mall, MegaWraps and Little Caesar's. Somehow I'm not surprised that there will be fast food places going in there. NBCC would provide a couple thousand nearby empty tummies!