Tribeca | 84.5m | 27 fl x 2 | Completed

[bikegypsy]

My theory is that Montreal simply evolved that way -- partly due to its maritime history -- as a place where people allow themselves to have fun. It's like what Pattaya is to Thailand. I lived in Montreal for 10 years and the fun does wear off a little as you get bogged down with the dusty seriousness of jobs and things like horrible traffic to the burbs (oh, and Mtl burbs are the as Ottawa's).

But there's a beautiful continuous vib in Montreal... it's the cultural capital of all things Quebec and that's got to be fun.

They've got creative giants such as Gilles Vigneault, Robert Charlebois, Cirque du Soleil, Lalala Human Steps, Celine Dion (just attempt for a milli-second at what she does and then we'll talk) as well as Robert Lepage.

All of them use Montreal as a focal point and since Quebec is incredibly creative and talented, it all falls on Montreal's lap.

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by Mille Sabords

We also have one of the best music scenes in Canada

As long as you like middle-of-the-road established acts. Few of the acts I like ever come to Ottawa.

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by Kitchissippi

Montreal is like a friend you want to party with Friday or Saturday night. Ottawa is someone you want to spend a wholesome time with on Saturday or Sunday morning.

But Vancouver! Oh, the things I'd do with and to Vancouver aren't fit to print on a family-oriented board!

[reidjr]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

As long as you like middle-of-the-road established acts. Few of the acts I like ever come to Ottawa.

To be fair almost every act that has gone to toronto has come to ottawa.

[rodionx]

What makes a city dull or fun depends on what you're into. Not everyone is into nightclubs. If you like outdoorsy stuff, like biking to your canoe, canoeing for a few hours, and then strolling up the dock to a pub, then Montreal and Toronto are dull as dishwater. By comparison, Ottawa is pretty good, and Victoria.... ahhh Victoria.

[ServiceGuy]

Unless I'm mistaken it seems Lisgar is going to be busy for the next while. Claridge Tribeca, Charlesfort Gotham City, Mastercraft Soho, and I "think" Claridge is looking at another 20 story building... all on Lisgar? Been a while since the "market area" hasn't been the hub of condoville.

[AuxTown]

Originally Posted by ServiceGuy

Unless I'm mistaken it seems Lisgar is going to be busy for the next while. Claridge Tribeca, Charlesfort Gotham City, Mastercraft Soho, and I "think" Claridge is looking at another 20 story building... all on Lisgar? Been a while since the "market area" hasn't been the hub of condoville.

Centretown's where it's at baby!

[k2p]

It's been a long (painful) time coming, but I think O Town's right. There's still much work to be done on the first block east of Bank, but things are pointing in the right direction.

Diane Holmes has, however, registered to run again so the NIMBYs may well thwart the renaissance yet.

[jcollins]

Originally Posted by k2p

Diane Holmes has, however, registered to run again so the NIMBYs may well thwart the renaissance yet.

Does she have enough supporters to get her elected again?

[Davis137]

Originally Posted by harls

it's the 'sleepy government town' stigma that is hard to shake.. but too bad for those who believe it. I like this place.

I didn't like it that much when I first moved here in 08, but it's amenities and other things are growing on me. It's now come to be the birthplace of my First Child, and where I've bought my first home (sign for my mortage tonight, and take ownership next Friday actually). Still, I just can't shake the number of people I've encountered that can't drive, or the number that forget their manners or etiquette at home in the morning (sorry if that sounded like an outright slam, but I've lived in much smaller communities all my life until now).

L8tz

[TransitZilla]

Originally Posted by cityguy

You gotta admit Ottawa's not the most exciting place around,as for Tribeca we'll have to wait and see.

Totally disagree.

I've had plenty of fun in Ottawa over the years. If you have a negative attitude then it tends to project into reality. Life is what you make it.

[Mille Sabords]

Originally Posted by bradnixon

I've had plenty of fun in Ottawa over the years.

Same here

Originally Posted by bradnixon

If you have a negative attitude then it tends to project into reality. Life is what you make it.

Obviously, we need more people like you here.

[rodionx]

Originally Posted by jcollins

Does she have enough supporters to get her elected again?

Book it. She'll win easily. She's an old school constituency politician and quite good at it. If her constituents don't like the height of something, she'll take up their case - it's not really an ideological thing. That's why you'll hear a lot more from her about the heights of buildings south of Laurier, rather than in the CBD.

[eemy]

Originally Posted by rodionx

Book it. She'll win easily. She's an old school constituency politician and quite good at it. If her constituents don't like the height of something, she'll take up their case - it's not really an ideological thing. That's why you'll hear a lot more from her about the heights of buildings south of Laurier, rather than in the CBD.

As much as Diane Holmes irkes me, I can't fault her for doing her job.

Also, re: Ottawa being boring:

As someone who loves the outdoors, Ottawa is one of the best cities in the country, with tonnes of trail, and most importantly Gatineau park minutes from downtown. The only city that really compares in that regard is Vancouver. There is world class white water kayaking a short ways out of the city, and very good rock climbing. As a kid, we never had a shortage of festivals to attend, and, at least amongst our group of friends, we were among the only people who actually took advantage of the phenomenal network of museums. What you make of the city is a reflection of you, not the city. If you find the city is boring, it's almost certainly because you are boring, not the city.

[Jamaican-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by jeremy_haak

As much as Diane Holmes irkes me, I can't fault her for doing her job.

Also, re: Ottawa being boring:

As someone who loves the outdoors, Ottawa is one of the best cities in the country, with tonnes of trail, and most importantly Gatineau park minutes from downtown. The only city that really compares in that regard is Vancouver. There is world class white water kayaking a short ways out of the city, and very good rock climbing. As a kid, we never had a shortage of festivals to attend, and, at least amongst our group of friends, we were among the only people who actually took advantage of the phenomenal network of museums. What you make of the city is a reflection of you, not the city. If you find the city is boring, it's almost certainly because you are boring, not the city.

I agree with you on everything except the bolded part. Some cities just click with people and others don't. Usually there are several aspects to a city that some may love and others may hate. I don't think that necessarily equates with being a boring person by saying the city is boring.

For example, with the exception of the San Diego Zoo, I found most of the city to be rather boring but I've met people who love that city. Heck, part of my family lives there.

[CondoGirl]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

As long as you like middle-of-the-road established acts. Few of the acts I like ever come to Ottawa.

So by your standards, Syracuse has a vibrant music scene???

[CondoGirl]

Originally Posted by jeremy_haak

What you make of the city is a reflection of you, not the city. If you find the city is boring, it's almost certainly because you are boring, not the city.

I second this.

Friends of mine who have lived in San Francisco/Seattle/Vancouver came here for work-related reasons and vowed they weren't staying more than 2 years. Four years on and they've purchased real estate and tell me that the longer they stay here, the more they are enjoying all this city has to offer, if only one is willing to get out and look for it.

But my general finding is that those who complain about "boring Ottawa" are almost always the bored-in-general types who like to sit around and wait for something "exciting" to happen, instead of getting off the couch and out of the house.

[rakerman]

Originally Posted by rodionx

Book it. She'll win easily. She's an old school constituency politician and quite good at it. If her constituents don't like the height of something, she'll take up their case - it's not really an ideological thing. That's why you'll hear a lot more from her about the heights of buildings south of Laurier, rather than in the CBD.

CBD boundary is actually one south, Gloucester. I think she represents her constituents pretty well - my position is, build as high as you want (and hopefully not a glass box) in the CBD - it has different planning rules just for this reason. but eg south of CBD in Centretown, respect your surroundings - that may be 10 to 15 storeys, or 4 to 6, depending on the area. keep in mind European cities get huge amounts of functional density with 6 storey buildings.

[rakerman]

just to get a bit back on the Tribeca track - the teaser ad in the Citizen yesterday said launch is February 27th.

[jcollins]

Originally Posted by ServiceGuy

February 18th

Any word on how the launch went yesterday?