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  #10201  
Old Posted Jul 12, 2022, 8:56 PM
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^ I wonder when WS will announce a high density 787 configuration. If they are truly going back to their LCC roots, then it only makes sense to have a few 400 seater 787s for the trunk routes in winter. (Cuba, PVR, CUN, PUJ, MCO, etc)

I think its inevitable really....
Then they really would be Air Transat Western Canada edition if they make slave ships like that.

7 787s I can see them split between YYC and YVR now:
YYC-LHR/LGW/OGG/CUN/CDG
YVR-LGW/OGG/HNL/CUN

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YVR-YYZ might go year round on 789.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 13, 2022, 4:14 PM
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Then they really would be Air Transat Western Canada edition if they make slave ships like that.

7 787s I can see them split between YYC and YVR now:
YYC-LHR/LGW/OGG/CUN/CDG
YVR-LGW/OGG/HNL/CUN

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YVR-YYZ might go year round on 789.
That looks like something WS could definitely do this winter. I wonder if they ever end up launching some sort of Asia in the future. Although with their strategy shift I'm not sute.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 13, 2022, 4:52 PM
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I wonder if this is the year CDG ends up being extended year round. There'll still be a lot of slack with no YYZ-LGW and 7 787's lying around.
I expect YYZ-CDG to go year round. Long-term, the slack could also be taken up by WS replacing KLM on YYC-AMS and YVR-AMS. I could also see YYZ-CUN on the 789 operating on a scissor route YYC-CUN-YYZ-CUN-YYC.

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^ I wonder when WS will announce a high density 787 configuration. If they are truly going back to their LCC roots, then it only makes sense to have a few 400 seater 787s for the trunk routes in winter. (Cuba, PVR, CUN, PUJ, MCO, etc)

I think its inevitable really....
Doubtful that WS would go the high density route. Too many economy seats. To be profitable on the TransAtlantic a proper business class cabin is required. WS all ready has the smallest J/C cabin in the market.

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Then they really would be Air Transat Western Canada edition if they make slave ships like that.
7+ years ago I used the term "slave ships" and "Kunte Kinte" class to describe Air Canada's high density 77W. But in this day of greater inclusion and diversity, these terms really need to be retired.
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Old Posted Jul 13, 2022, 5:40 PM
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Yeah I agree with Cage, I feel like only YYC-CUN, YYC-PVR and YYZ-CUN would ever work in that high density config, and then you have a problem of what to do with those ships in the summer when there's still a good bit of reason to believe their existing 320 seat ships are too many.

There is actually a bit of demand for the front cabin on the Dreamliner OGG, CUN and PVR runs, perhaps more than you'd expect. Not like it's yielding what the pods do on transatlantic flights or anything, but it'd be a step backward to go to high density there when you can simply add an additional -800 to get 162 more Y seats to CUN if necessary. Even with 400 Y seats on YYC-CUN they'd still be running an additional 3x 737-800 on peak days anyway.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2022, 2:59 AM
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Lynx Air has received its 4th delivery of Boeing 737Max 8 plane ✈️ today delivered to its main hub at Calgary YYC.

According to post on YYC Airport Spotters Facebook Group Page it was a former Norwegian Airlines Boeing 737Max 8 of the 4th plane for Lynx

https://www.facebook.com/groups/158623457582715/permalink/5021310411313971/?fs=e&s=cl
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2022, 9:13 PM
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Any idea how lynx is doing? Seems like a pretty tough summer to start operating. I'd imagine flair is struggling also?
My mom did Lynx YYZ to YYC the other day and said almost ever seat was full.
So there is one data point from a RAndom Monday in July.

Also, how did Lynx get into T1 in Toronto?
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 16, 2022, 8:18 PM
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Also, how did Lynx get into T1 in Toronto?
Gate availability is a nightmare at YYZ, but T3 is even worse.
     
     
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Is it safe to assume Eurowings is still coming in two weeks? Looking in the GDS, bookings seem to be good?

Still showing 4x weekly on Mon / Tue / Thu / Sat using a Finnair 359.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2022, 10:51 AM
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Is it safe to assume Eurowings is still coming in two weeks? Looking in the GDS, bookings seem to be good?

Still showing 4x weekly on Mon / Tue / Thu / Sat using a Finnair 359.
Yup, they appear to still be coming. I see some A350-related service items around the airport that have not been here previously.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 18, 2022, 11:06 PM
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So in August YYC will have 13 weekly intl longhaul flights on foreign carriers

KLM daily
Edelweiss twice weekly
Eurowings Discover 4x weekly

And 47 total weekly with AC’s 14 weekly and WS’s 20 weekly
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 21, 2022, 1:39 AM
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https://calgaryherald.com/business/local...rvice-baggage-handlers-cannot-be-reached

Incoming strike at Westjet could happen as early as July 27 next week. This could wreck serious havoc at YYC with WS's 130 daily departures
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2022, 3:04 AM
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Does anyone know why YXJ on AC is being abruptly ended in a week?
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 23, 2022, 6:17 AM
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Does anyone know why YXJ on AC is being abruptly ended in a week?
It looks like Air Canada (AC) is adding a 3rd daily flight on the Vancouver YVR - Fort St John YXJ route from August 1 2022, as currently YVR - YXJ is 2x daily.

That’s 1 of the reasons why AC cut it from YYC.

Plus Calgary YYC - Fort St John YXJ will still be operated by WestJet 2x daily.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 25, 2022, 6:19 AM
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The Calgary YYC June 2022 passenger stats are out:

Domestic 1,066,685 (257.5%) & 1st time for 2022 that YYC has reach 1million Domestic passengers so far.
Transborder 233,139 (1589.3%)
International 110,278 (1625.5%)
June total passengers 1,410,102 (342.6%)

YYC June -US + International total :343,417

https://www.yyc.com/Portals/0/Jun_Passengers_Website.pdf
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 25, 2022, 11:32 PM
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Does anyone know why YXJ on AC is being abruptly ended in a week?
AC in recent years has been very volatile and reactionary with their Jazz routes out of YYC, in both frequency and equipment. It's almost to the point I no longer notice when they come and go. Jazz is having major issues keeping planes and flying and staffing them nationwide, so this is some simple fat trimming.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 26, 2022, 12:06 AM
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AC in recent years has been very volatile and reactionary with their Jazz routes out of YYC, in both frequency and equipment. It's almost to the point I no longer notice when they come and go. Jazz is having major issues keeping planes and flying and staffing them nationwide, so this is some simple fat trimming.
Are you sure? Seems more likely Fort. St John wasn't selling so they just moved the 1x YYC service over to YVR. YYC went down one flight, YVR went up one flight. So seems like that's what they did?
     
     
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Not surprisingly but it looks like YYC-LGW on WS is being suspended for the winter with the increase of YYC-LHR to daily. Makes sense.

Winter Europe longhaul schedule as of now:

AC daily 789 LHR
AC daily 789 FRA
KL daily 333/332 AMS
WS daily 789 LHR

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Old Posted Jul 26, 2022, 2:48 PM
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Not surprisingly but it looks like YYC-LGW on WS is being suspended for the winter with the increase of YYC-LHR to daily. Makes sense.

Winter Europe longhaul schedule as of now:

AC daily 789 LHR
AC daily 789 FRA
KL daily 332 AMS
WS daily 789 LHR
KL is mixed 332/333 like previous winter seasons.

Let's hope AC wins on the LHR market.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 27, 2022, 1:23 AM
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KL is mixed 332/333 like previous winter seasons.

Let's hope AC wins on the LHR market.
Correct - thanks I’ve edited my post.

And WS daily on LHR will certainly make it tougher for AC - really going head to head on London now. I am sure AC will survive though.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 27, 2022, 5:04 AM
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Correct - thanks I’ve edited my post.

And WS daily on LHR will certainly make it tougher for AC - really going head to head on London now. I am sure AC will survive though.
In years past I traveled on that route with AC on the 747-400. Then years later the A340 and 777. AC may have to concede a few seats to WS but they will be ok.
     
     
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