Dead Malls of Canada - Page 70

YYCguys · #**1381** Posted **Mar 9, 2022, 2:37 AM**

I would like to speak about Melcor Centre (formerly known as Lethbridge Centre) in Lethbridge, Alberta. It started out as a single level single corridor indoor mall with Woodwards at one end and a food court topped by an office tower at the other end. About a decade later, a second level was added to the mall portion and Woodwards became The Bay. An above ground Parkade was added next to the Bay. Fast forward to the 21st century and all but a handful of retail tenants have disappeared, even the movie theatre. The mall has since been transformed into a professional centre with The Bay still anchoring its west end.

When Park Place Mall was built a few blocks away, it drew a lot of Lethbridge Centre’s tenants and shoppers over there. Sears was the main anchor at Park Place but I do believe that that space remains vacant. In my opinion, it would make sense, if Hudson’s Bay still wishes to maintain a presence in Lethbridge, to move over to Park Place. I’m surprised that it hasn’t happened yet.

JustForTheHalibut · #**1382** Posted **Mar 11, 2022, 5:31 PM**

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^Thanks for the support and commentary. I appreciate it

Posts Per Day (me): 5.73 I am hardly spending 24/7 on this site.

Congratulations in having a friend like ssiguy on Skyscraperpage, even if he is a racist bigot.
I'm guessing you're both from the same city and go waaay back.

I'm ok with you being on this site 24/7 btw,
to each their own.

JustForTheHalibut · #**1383** Posted **Mar 11, 2022, 5:37 PM**

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So I visited New Horizon Mall (an Asian mall like Pacific Mall in Markham) outside Calgary over the weekend and it's a very strange place. Only opened in 2018, it's maybe 40% occupied at the most and was built next door to Crossiron Mills (I don't get why the NHM developers thought they could compete).

There is a large children's indoor playground on the second floor that was busy but otherwise there weren't many people inside. I wonder if it's completely dead on a weekday morning?

NHM is probably relying on some of CrossIron Mills Calgarian shoppers to stop by since they made the trip halfway to Airdrie anyway.

https://newhorizonmall.com/floor-plans/

I'm still impressed shopping centres like CrossIron that are bigger than Eaton Centre in Toronto are still being built in Canada.

Tsawwassen Mills in Delta is another example.

MolsonExport · #**1384** Posted **Mar 11, 2022, 6:54 PM**

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Congratulations in having a friend like ssiguy on Skyscraperpage, even if he is a racist bigot.
I'm guessing you're both from the same city and go waaay back.

I'm ok with you being on this site 24/7 btw,
to each their own.

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ssiguy · #**1385** Posted **Mar 11, 2022, 7:45 PM**

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Congratulations in having a friend like ssiguy on Skyscraperpage, even if he is a racist bigot.
I'm guessing you're both from the same city and go waaay back.

I'm ok with you being on this site 24/7 btw,
to each their own.

Who do you think you are? Get off this website and do us all a favour. Rest assured NOBODY will miss you or your condescending personal attacks.

This forum is for intelligent adults and MolsonExport certainly qualifies and you certainly don't.

ssiguy · #**1386** Posted **Mar 11, 2022, 8:00 PM**

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When Park Place Mall was built a few blocks away, it drew a lot of Lethbridge Centre’s tenants and shoppers over there. Sears was the main anchor at Park Place but I do believe that that space remains vacant. In my opinion, it would make sense, if Hudson’s Bay still wishes to maintain a presence in Lethbridge, to move over to Park Place. I’m surprised that it hasn’t happened yet.

I'm not surprised. The reality is that smaller/mid-size cities simply can't compete against the ample free parking and lower rents of suburban locations. Hudson Bay is a decidedly upscale dept store and it follows the money.

I think the best thing that such smaller/mid-size cities should actively DISCOURAGE large retailers and huge chains. Downtowns should focus their attention on capturing those niche shoppers who don't want to shop at the standard mall outlets and want a unique experience.

They can't compete against the suburban malls and big box stores so why bother trying? They already tried this approach with the downtown malls and it didn't work so there is no point in thinking it would somehow work now.

Downtowns offer the unique shops and services that suburban malls can't and this is where they should put their focus.

esquire · #**1387** Posted **Mar 11, 2022, 8:33 PM**

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I'm not surprised. The reality is that smaller/mid-size cities simply can't compete against the ample free parking and lower rents of suburban locations. Hudson Bay is a decidedly upscale dept store and it follows the money.

I think the best thing that such smaller/mid-size cities should actively DISCOURAGE large retailers and huge chains. Downtowns should focus their attention on capturing those niche shoppers who don't want to shop at the standard mall outlets and want a unique experience.

They can't compete against the suburban malls and big box stores so why bother trying? They already tried this approach with the downtown malls and it didn't work so there is no point in thinking it would somehow work now.

Downtowns offer the unique shops and services that suburban malls can't and this is where they should put their focus.

This is what happened to Brandon, Manitoba. An absolutely beautiful downtown that was laid to waste by 1950s/60s style strip malls, then 1970s/80s enclosed malls, and finally 2000s power centre development. Brandon couldn't jump on those bandwagons fast enough and it ended up eviscerating their downtown. It's pretty sad.

CivicBlues · #**1388** Posted **Mar 11, 2022, 10:14 PM**

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Who do you think you are? Get off this website and do us all a favour. Rest assured NOBODY will miss you or your condescending personal attacks.

This forum is for intelligent adults and MolsonExport certainly qualifies and you certainly don't.

So why are you here?

WhipperSnapper · #**1389** Posted **Mar 11, 2022, 11:02 PM**

I view us, collectively, as David Putty decked out in devils face paint sitting on a couch pondering

CivicBlues · #**1390** Posted **Mar 12, 2022, 12:17 AM**

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I view us, collectively, as David Putty decked out in devils face paint sitting on a couch pondering

High Five!

JustForTheHalibut · #**1391** Posted **Mar 12, 2022, 10:47 PM**

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nice to see you able to form sentences again.

Could your report this post as well while you are at it?

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Puck off, hole ass.

20 years, but you just joined a few months ago? What was your previous username before you were banned? Justfortherancidfish

looking forward to see your reply within the hour.

whatnext · #**1392** Posted **Mar 14, 2022, 10:30 PM**

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So why are you here?

I'm sure like all of us, he's here to capture the scintillating bon mots that fall from your lips before they hit the ground with the turgid splat of seagull poop.

CivicBlues · #**1393** Posted **Mar 14, 2022, 10:35 PM**

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I'm sure like all of us, he's here to capture the scintillating bon mots that fall from your lips before they hit the ground with the turgid splat of seagull poop.

Did you just discover thesaurus.com? Good for you!

MissingMiddler · #**1394** Posted **Mar 15, 2022, 1:34 AM**

Sweet, a whole page wasted by virtue signalling from JustForTheHalibut and CivicBlues. Just what I wanted when checking out the Dead Malls thread.

Get a life and let the rest of us read about dead malls, thanks.

JustForTheHalibut · #**1395** Posted **Mar 22, 2022, 6:04 PM**

^

So I saw this post on another thread and thought I'd add it to here.

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Early 70s, Chinook centre and downtown.

From: https://www.reddit.com/r/Calgary/comments/tj16dn/downtown_calgary_chinook_mall_early_1970s/

MolsonExport · #**1396** Posted **Mar 22, 2022, 8:47 PM**

https://www.frontiermall.ca/

Worth the trip.

WhipperSnapper · #**1397** Posted **Mar 22, 2022, 9:25 PM**

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^

So I saw this post on another thread and thought I'd add it to here.

That's Chinook. It's like Yorkdale in Toronto. It doesn't belong in this thread.

JustForTheHalibut · #**1398** Posted **Mar 22, 2022, 9:32 PM**

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That's Chinook. It's like Yorkdale in Toronto. It doesn't belong in this thread.

Chinook definitely doesn't belong in this thread, since it has one of the highest sales/sq foot in the country, top ten for malls in Canada anyway. But it's interesting to see how far that mall has come in like 50 years.

Denscity · #**1399** Posted **Mar 22, 2022, 11:59 PM**

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https://www.frontiermall.ca/

Worth the trip.

Mike's Club Wear and Ardenes in the same place?? I'm so there.

Denscity · #**1400** Posted **Mar 23, 2022, 12:06 AM**

The dead mall closest to me would be in Trail BC. Check out the non stop action in Waneta Plaza! A great place for the local seniors to buy scratch n lose tickets. And the old Zellers space was never re leased.

wanetaplaza.com