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Originally Posted by s4.audios
So essentially mandated stay home order if you are not vaccinated??
Not wanting to get vaccinated does not mean you are self-absorbed and feel privileged, that is a very broad and harsh opinion to make of the players.
They complied with the rules, they got tested, they tested positive, they no longer entered the facilities. That is an acceptable social endeavour and they complied.
People not getting vaccinated are taking a risk they have the right to choose. Just like us who have been vaccinated, and took the risk of injecting a rushed vaccine with minimal test trials and a lot of unknowns.
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Yes, people have the right to choose. But it's not quite that simple...
We get vaccinated to protect us from the virus but we also do that to protect ourselves as a society not just as individuals. As individuals, we have limited defenses that the vaccine has proven to supplement successfully. As a society, we also have limited capacity in our health and medical systems that the vaccine has also been instrumental in supplementing successfully.
Even those of us who are vaccinated are at risk of not having surgery or ICU spaces when they are overwhelmed by COVID cases. Restrictions on those who freely choose to remain non-vaccinated individuals are for their protection as well as mine and yours and everyone else’s should they need surgery or ICU spaces for something other than COVID. To date, “simple rapid testing” is simply not as effective or as accurate and it still requires the same disclosure of information that is objected to by those against vaccine passports.
Furthermore, the risks are not only on the plane or in the restaurant or in the stadium - it’s in the terminals and concourses or the lrt at both ends. While the focus is on the plane or the restaurant or the stadium, the risk is much broader. It’s just that the plane flight or the stadium or the restaurant itself is the most logical/manageable control point and using vaccination - and not testing - as the criteria also moves the control point outward from the gate or the door to the point of purchase for the ticket or the reservation which is more and more electronic/on-line.
1.5 million Canadians have had COVID and 27,000 of us have died even with all of the measures taken to minimize both of those things. That’s in roughly a year and a half and we need to remember that virtually every one of those cases was closely connected to travel and/or close contact with other people - COVID didn’t simply arrive out of thin air and those numbers ramped up from zero. You would have thought we learned from the first or the second or the third wave but maybe we will in the fourth.
Think about the big picture as well… we don’t allow people into the country from elsewhere who haven’t been vaccinated. Why should we think Canadians deserve less protection from the actions and movement of other Canadians than from people from everywhere else in the world?
As for the "basic human rights would be violated" red herring, it’s no different than the legislation that has been in place in Ontario since 1982 requiring children to be vaccinated for nine diseases including polio, diphtheria, mumps and measles and without which they can be suspended from the right to attend public school and their parents can be fined.
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