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Old Posted Feb 20, 2020, 9:17 PM
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The sprinklers only operate if there is a fire inside. The heat breaks the glass piece in the sprinkler.

If you have no sprinklers and the fire is in your unit. Everything burns. So either it's potential for water damage or lose everything to fire. Then get the water damage from the fire fighters anyway.
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Old Posted Feb 21, 2020, 3:23 AM
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Sprinkled in each unit must drive up your home insurance costs.
According to the NFPA (the people that write the fire protection standards) fire depts use 10x the water to put out a fire compared to a sprinkler protected unit.

https://www.nfpa.org/News-and-Resear...prinkler-Myths

And its not like the moves where all the sprinklers go off at one time flooding everything.
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So they never go off accidentally or in response to smoke from something on the stove? That was what I meant.
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I think they're heat based. But I see your point.
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I have lived in both types of apartments. The big issue is sound transfer, not sprinklers. In a wood building I have managed to burn several things on the stove and set off the smoke detector but never triggered the sprinkler. Hearing noise in all directions through wood was not fun. There are ways to mask noise, but that costs money.
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Just saw this post on Linkedin of all places from 1 hour ago. I'm wondering if this is in reference to a new, unannounced project or is it something that's already being built/in the works - it sounds like its for either commercial or residential, so maybe it's for 300 main? (Note: Wawanesa's new HQ which is estimated to cost $125 to $150 million but perhaps it's for the Portage Place redevelopment?)

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^ Sounds like Portage Place.
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Old Posted Feb 21, 2020, 5:43 PM
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Self performed concrete would not be 300 main. Self performed is something like PCL building TNS and doing the concrete themselves.

Sounds like could be PP or something else. I think there's been some rumours of in announced projects on here.
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I have lived in both types of apartments. The big issue is sound transfer, not sprinklers. In a wood building I have managed to burn several things on the stove and set off the smoke detector but never triggered the sprinkler. Hearing noise in all directions through wood was not fun. There are ways to mask noise, but that costs money.
Yes, living in a 1912 era Winnipegesque three-storey walk up in downtown Toronto (rare here) was a charming experience that I enjoyed for 8 or 9 years, other than for the footsteps and creaking, which I don’t think I could endure as well at my current advanced age. With my rather large collection of books and paper collectibles, having sprinklers on the ceiling would cause me a bit of anxiety, even if most items are in plastic and fairly well protected. That is why I was thinking about this.
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^ Sounds like Portage Place.
Yes, interesting that they’d see so much value in that. But count our blessings, I guess.
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Just saw this post on Linkedin of all places from 1 hour ago. I'm wondering if this is in reference to a new, unannounced project or is it something that's already being built/in the works - it sounds like its for either commercial or residential, so maybe it's for 300 main? (Note: Wawanesa's new HQ which is estimated to cost $125 to $150 million but perhaps it's for the Portage Place redevelopment?)

$110 million would be more than a high rise tower....interesting.
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Whom was the original poster on Linked in? Could probably glean some info from that.
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$110 million would be more than a high rise tower....interesting.
Didn't Starlight say the whole project cost was in the $300-400 million range? In that light, could $110 million be referring to the proposed pair of residential towers that are part of the overall project?
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Whom was the original poster on Linked in? Could probably glean some info from that.
It was a recruiter from a local recruiting firm called Legacy Bowes. I don't think that helps much unless you know which clients the firm is hired to help but I think that's private information.
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^Ya if it's the recruiter than probably not.
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Doesn't sound like the Portage Place redo because that's much more expensive than 110 mil. Possibly a phase of the project?

The other possibility is that it's something to do with a previously announced TOD? They do specifically mention residential construction so I doubt it's the Wawanesa building.
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Doesn't sound like the Portage Place redo because that's much more expensive than 110 mil. Possibly a phase of the project?
My thought was that it may have to do with just the two residential tower portion of the overall project.
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Maybe the project at the old McNaught dealership property?
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Maybe the project at the old McNaught dealership property?
Or the two tower development by P3 on south pembina ?
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Window coverings are down and the former restaurant space in NewPort is completely open to the old lobby portion, still lots of work being done. Looks like the initial renderings showing the lobby being moved to the corner are (still) happening. Will be interesting to see if they have to wait til the new BMO in 201 Portage opens before being able to complete, or if BMO will vacate that location earlier.

The 201 interior renos are well underway, the lobby is all hoarded in on the inside now too.
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