The US Census Bureau thread

[Capsicum]

Originally Posted by Docere

It isn't really clear whether ancestry means ethnicity or geographic origin, especially with changing boundaries over time.

What about ethnic Germans from Eastern Europe? I assume people with that ancestry would write in German, because they retained a distinct German identity there and didn't assimilate into the local population. But if their ancestors were from Austria, they might identify as Austrian since Austria is a German-speaking country.

Does someone with Alsatian roots whose ancestors came in the late 19th century write French or German?

Is John Kerry "Czech" or "Austrian"?

Geographical origin would be a bit more straightforward to ask if there is knowledge of that place (but then the question ought to be what place(s) did your ancestors come from, not what ethnicity did your ancestors have?)

Also, ethnicity of ancestors requires knowing what said ancestors identified as (eg. did ethnic Germans in eastern Europe back in the day see themselves as simply German?), but the person responding might think "what do I think of my ancestors as" (eg. "I think anyone born on a country's soil belongs to that country, thus my "X"-born ancestors had to be "X-ese")., rather than what the ancestors saw themselves as.

[Capsicum]

Originally Posted by Docere

especially with changing boundaries over time.

Indeed.

http://www.visualcapitalist.com/map-worlds-borders-by-age/

[UPChicago]

Originally Posted by BnaBreaker

Those Nigeria projections are absolutely horrifying.

Why?

[dubu]

the largest community bunker city is in the us so if something happens the population will be 5,000 and not 0. i wish i could live there

[jd3189]

Originally Posted by UPChicago

Why?

Fear of overpopulation even though many African nations will eventually be just as industrized as the West in the recent past and birth rates will go down as a result.

[dubu]

8 billion people in the world in 2023.
http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

waiting for those boxes that make free power for each home. its pretty sketch with the power grid. we need to make better cities also.

[Sun Belt]

Census released this info. yesterday 5-24-18

The 15 Cities With the Largest Numeric Increase Between July 1, 2016, and July 1, 2017 [Populations of 50,000 or more in 2016]:

City, increase YoY, current population
1) San Antonio, TX: 24,208 -- 1,511,946
2) Phoenix, AZ: 24,036 -- 1,626,078
3) Dallas, TX: 18,935 -- 1,341,075
4) Fort Worth, TX: 18,664 -- 874,168
5) Los Angeles, CA: 18,643 -- 3,999,759
6) Seattle, WA: 17,490 -- 724,745
7) Charlotte, NC: 15,551 -- 859,035
8) Columbus, OH: 15,429 -- 879,170
9) Frisco, TX: 13,470 -- 177,286
10) Atlanta, GA: 13,323 -- 486,290
11) San Diego, CA: 12,834 -- 1,419,516
12) Austin, TX: 12,515 -- 950,715
13) Jacksonville, FL: 11,169 -- 892,062
14) Irvine, CA: 11,068 -- 277,453
15) Henderson, NV: 10,534 -- 302,539

I have a couple thoughts:
A) Texas. Damn!
B) The South and West. Damn!
C) Suburban boom towns, Henderson, Irvine and Frisco. Damn!
D) Columbus, Ohio. Damn! [remarkable because it's not in the Sun Belt or the West, incredible growth in central Ohio].

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2018/estimates-cities.html

[ocman]

Originally Posted by Sun Belt

Census released this info. yesterday 5-24-18

The 15 Cities With the Largest Numeric Increase Between July 1, 2016, and July 1, 2017 [Populations of 50,000 or more in 2016]:

City, increase YoY, current population
1) San Antonio, TX: 24,208 -- 1,511,946
2) Phoenix, AZ: 24,036 -- 1,626,078
3) Dallas, TX: 18,935 -- 1,341,075
4) Fort Worth, TX: 18,664 -- 874,168
5) Los Angeles, CA: 18,643 -- 3,999,759
6) Seattle, WA: 17,490 -- 724,745
7) Charlotte, NC: 15,551 -- 859,035
8) Columbus, OH: 15,429 -- 879,170
9) Frisco, TX: 13,470 -- 177,286
10) Atlanta, GA: 13,323 -- 486,290
11) San Diego, CA: 12,834 -- 1,419,516
12) Austin, TX: 12,515 -- 950,715
13) Jacksonville, FL: 11,169 -- 892,062
14) Irvine, CA: 11,068 -- 277,453
15) Henderson, NV: 10,534 -- 302,539


https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2018/estimates-cities.html

Once again, Los Angeles will reach a milestone with 4 million people. It’s like one of those movies where the day keeps repeating itself. LOL.

[llamaorama]

I wonder if Houston is going to continue it's meteoric population rise or see slow growth or even decline in the city proper? Will it ever surpass Chicago in city population now? Will Dallas-Fort Worth now remain its wide lead as the state's largest metro area?

The oil bust and hurricane really had a bigger effect than anyone expected. I also have a suspicion that the immigration reduction under Trump and the new citizenship question on the census is going to result in fewer people and maybe an undercount in most Texas cities as well.

Houston Chronicle:

Houston’s population growth hits a wall, adding only 8,000 new residents in 2017

Houston region's population growth decelerated in 2017, Census figures show

[the urban politician]

Originally Posted by Sun Belt

Census released this info. yesterday 5-24-18

The 15 Cities With the Largest Numeric Increase Between July 1, 2016, and July 1, 2017 [Populations of 50,000 or more in 2016]:

City, increase YoY, current population
1) San Antonio, TX: 24,208 -- 1,511,946
2) Phoenix, AZ: 24,036 -- 1,626,078
3) Dallas, TX: 18,935 -- 1,341,075
4) Fort Worth, TX: 18,664 -- 874,168
5) Los Angeles, CA: 18,643 -- 3,999,759
6) Seattle, WA: 17,490 -- 724,745
7) Charlotte, NC: 15,551 -- 859,035
8) Columbus, OH: 15,429 -- 879,170
9) Frisco, TX: 13,470 -- 177,286
10) Atlanta, GA: 13,323 -- 486,290
11) San Diego, CA: 12,834 -- 1,419,516
12) Austin, TX: 12,515 -- 950,715
13) Jacksonville, FL: 11,169 -- 892,062
14) Irvine, CA: 11,068 -- 277,453
15) Henderson, NV: 10,534 -- 302,539

I have a couple thoughts:
A) Texas. Damn!
B) The South and West. Damn!
C) Suburban boom towns, Henderson, Irvine and Frisco. Damn!
D) Columbus, Ohio. Damn! [remarkable because it's not in the Sun Belt or the West, incredible growth in central Ohio].

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2018/estimates-cities.html

More miles and miles of worthless tract housing accessible only by car, nothing worth remembering, nothing anybody will ever care about. Damn!

[The North One]

Columbus must have obscene city limits, it being larger than both Seattle and Atlanta really makes me laugh.

[Sun Belt]

Originally Posted by llamaorama

I wonder if Houston is going to continue it's meteoric population rise or see slow growth or even decline in the city proper? Will it ever surpass Chicago in city population now? Will Dallas-Fort Worth now remain its wide lead as the state's largest metro area?

If Chicago stays at their current population and Houston continues to grow slowly, then Houston will surpass Chicago in 2067.

Chicago pop: 2,716,450
Houston pop: 2,312,717
difference of: 403,733
divided by low growth - 8,000 people per year = 50.46 years

If Houston has the combined total of Dallas + Ft. Worth type growth then by 2028.
403,733/37,599 = 10.73 years

If Houston has high San Antonio-like growth then by the year 2034
403,733/24,208 = 16.67 years

Houston will pass Chicago between the years of 2028 and 2068, most likely in the 2040s if Chicago stays constant.

If Chicago grows to 3,000,000, then Houston could pass it by 2045 in a San Antonio like growth scenario.

[bnk]

Originally Posted by Sun Belt

If Chicago stays at their current population and Houston continues to grow slowly, then Houston will surpass Chicago in 2067.

Chicago pop: 2,716,450
Houston pop: 2,312,717
difference of: 403,733
divided by low growth - 8,000 people per year = 50.46 years

If Houston has the combined total of Dallas + Ft. Worth type growth then by 2028.
403,733/37,599 = 10.73 years

If Houston has high San Antonio-like growth then by the year 2034
403,733/24,208 = 16.67 years

Houston will pass Chicago between the years of 2028 and 2068, most likely in the 2040s if Chicago stays constant.

If Chicago grows to 3,000,000, then Houston could pass it by 2045 in a San Antonio like growth scenario.

City limits are a poor measure. We should all know that Houston city limits are much larger in size than most every other city in America save Anchorage or the famed skyline of Jacksonville Florida with their esteemed bridges that are lit up at night. The MSA or metro region is a better way of determine the true size and influence of our great megalopolises.

Hell MSP, DC, Boston, San Fran and many more have smallish city boundaries and their gravity and population is not limited to only the city limits

I mean ???

Houston city limits are in Sq miles is huge. Cook county is smaller in square miles than Harris county and is more populous. Hell Indianapolis and Phoenix have larger city boundaries than the City of Chicago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_area#


Houston has the largest city bounderies than any city in the USA over 1 million people. Way more than even NYC.




2/3rds of Chicagoland residents do not live in the city limits of Chicago BTW.


Chicago also has these smaller counties in its metro area.


Chicago-Aurora-Joliet, IL Metropolitan Division (7,998,257)
Cook County (5,287,037)
DeKalb County (107,333)
DuPage County (932,541)
Grundy County (48,421)
Kane County (511,892)
Kendall County (104,821)
McHenry County (320,961)
Will County (685,251)
Gary, IN Metropolitan Division (709,265)
Jasper County (IN) (33,520)
Lake County (IN) (496,478)
Newton County (IN) (14,250)
Porter County (IN) (165,017)
Lake County-Kenosha County, IL-WI Metropolitan Division (877,949)
Lake County (IL) (712,567)
Kenosha County (WI) (165,382)

Soon to be Racine WI county too.

[Sun Belt]

Originally Posted by bnk

City limits are a poor measure. We should all know that Houston city limits are much larger in size than most every other city in America save Anchorage or the famed skyline of Jacksonville Florida with their esteemed bridges that are lit up at night. The MSA or metro region is a better way of determine the true size and influence of our great megalopolises.

Hell MSP, DC, Boston, San Fran and many more have smallish city boundaries and their gravity and population is not limited to only the city limits

I mean ???

Houston in Sq miles is huge. Cook county is smaller than Harris county and more populous.

2/3rds of Chicagoland residents do not live in the city limits of Chicago BTW.

We can also find the approximate date of when the DFW-MSA will pass up Chicagoland.

After considering the growth rates of both MSAs since 2010, Dallas - Ft. Worth will pass Chicagoland by 2032, although conservatively, I'd say 2035-2040.

E) *Houston grew faster than Dallas during those years, but their MSA is smaller than DFW.

2/3rds of Chicagoland residents do not live in the city limits of Chicago BTW.

Chicago is about 28.5% of their MSA [2.7 million out of 9.5 million]

Dallas city pop: 1,341,075
DFW MSA pop: 7,400,000
= 18%

Houston city pop: 2,312,717
Houston MSA pop: 6,892,427
=33%

[the urban politician]

I don't think it matters how "big" Houston or Dallas become. But we've had this discussion before.

[The North One]

They're just discussing hypotheticals, chill out.

Chicagoans can be so insecure.

[the urban politician]

Originally Posted by The North One

They're just discussing hypotheticals, chill out.

Chicagoans can be so insecure.

Damn, talk about a pot calling out a kettle!

[skyscraperpage17]

[The North One]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

Damn, talk about a pot calling out a kettle!

When have you seen me cry about the censuses and hijack any discussion about numbers? oh right, never. You can't even control yourself in the slightest. Don't come barking in a census thread if it doesn't matter to you.

[TexasPlaya]

Originally Posted by llamaorama

I wonder if Houston is going to continue it's meteoric population rise or see slow growth or even decline in the city proper? Will it ever surpass Chicago in city population now? Will Dallas-Fort Worth now remain its wide lead as the state's largest metro area?

The oil bust and hurricane really had a bigger effect than anyone expected. I also have a suspicion that the immigration reduction under Trump and the new citizenship question on the census is going to result in fewer people and maybe an undercount in most Texas cities as well.

Houston Chronicle:

Houston’s population growth hits a wall, adding only 8,000 new residents in 2017

Houston region's population growth decelerated in 2017, Census figures show

Tough to predict. Global demand has been picking which means Houston's economy will be picking up. However, the hurricane is still lingering heavily. It's probably a great thing population growth has slowed since they are still building in flood plains while they figure what to do.