YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[Johnny Aussie]

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada...ines-draft-bill-of-rights-for-passengers

This is what Jetlines has been pushing for.

Jetlines now states looking at buying the C-Series.

[Canadian74]

Originally Posted by vanlaw

Does anyone know which version of the 787-8 JAL uses on YVR-NRT? There are two versions, one with what I would call "regular" economy seats (31" pitch and 17.5" width) and another with their new "spacious economy", which probably rivals a lot of premium economy products with 33" pitch and 18.9" seat width

https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Japan_Airlines/Japan_Airlines_787-800_B.php

I've tried to a dummy booking on both Expedia and JAL but couldn't get to seat selection without entering passport info etc. There are some great fares for spring travel to Japan on all of JAL, AC and ANA at the moment, under $900.

thanks.

It's amazing they can make money with only 161 seats and no First class

[vanlaw]

Originally Posted by Canadian74

It's amazing they can make money with only 161 seats and no First class

They probably offset any losses by flying a 500 seat 777-300 on short domestic routes...that's high density!

https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Japan_Airlines/Japan_Airlines_Boeing_777-300.php

[Spork]

I flew JAL last May and let me tell you, those seats were luxuriously large compared to long haul I've done on AC, BA, KLM, etc.

[Johnny Aussie]

Sorry articles only in Spanish... But....

Interjet

http://sipse.com/novedades/cancun-interj...aviones-aerolinea-aeropuerto-228516.html

Basically..... Interjet has indicated they plan on starting direct flights from MEX to YVR and YYZ next year. They are also looking at adding direct flights to CUN and GDL at a later date.

Volaris

http://expansion.mx/empresas/2016/10/19/canada-seduce-a-interjet-y-volaris-tras-el-fin-de-visa

A little more vague but Volaris also looking at YVR. Basically the elimination of the visa requirement and lower airline operating costs has opened the door for more flights to YVR from MEX, GDL and MTY. YVR is working with Interjet and Volaris to land direct flights to GDL and MTY.

[excel]

Great news. Lets hope this happens.

[SpongeG]

i used westjet to fly this time, hated it, but anyway they use the A B security. Everytime I have ever used that side security seems to take forever, i waited in line at least 15 minutes before getting assigned to a line.

I usually fly with Air Canada and use C gate security, in themultiple times I have used it I have never waited more than a couple of minutes and usually there is no line up at all and even when there is one it moves so quickly you never seem to wait more than 5 minutes.

why is that? why is A B gate so slow compared to C? do the airlines have a say in how muc staf they want used in security?

[SpongeG]

when did this start?

[casper]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

when did this start?

The news release....
http://aircanada.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1006

[Johnny Aussie]

http://www.jetlines.ca

"...planning to launch operations in Summer 2017."

"...primary bases at (YVR) and in Southern Ontario."

[moosejaw]

Great news about the mexican airlines. DIdnt know Cancun was such a big market for Canada. I can read spanish, you really dont have a choice when in Miami

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

http://www.jetlines.ca

"...planning to launch operations in Summer 2017."

"...primary bases at (YVR) and in Southern Ontario."

I'd love to know what some of their prices will be, as they call themselves an ULCC "ultra low cost carrier."

[nname]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

http://www.jetlines.ca

"...planning to launch operations in Summer 2017."

"...primary bases at (YVR) and in Southern Ontario."

I think the "Southern Ontario" hub would be Hamilton, according to the map they released a couple of years ago.

And in response.... WestJet would run daily YVR-YHM flight this summer:

https://www.westjet.com/guest/en/deals/offers/hamilton-vancouver.shtml

[excel]

Nice. This well help relieve some pressure on the YYZ flights.

[Johnny Aussie]

The YHM daily flight on Westjet is an increase from 3 weekly this last summer.

I think the Westjet move is also tied into NewLeafs ambitions. Will they still be flying next summer? Route map has already shrunk to 8 destinations.

Curious if they'll bring back YXU and YHZ too.

Also curious if maybe rouge has a crack at YHM too. They had planned YYC-YHM but those flights never took off. With AC now concentrating on YVR out west it's certainly not out of the realm of possibilities.

As for Jetlines... Summer 2017 is really not that far away... lots of work ahead to get lift off.

The Mexican carriers' stories are more exciting in my mind. Interjet sounds like a given. Imagine YVR-MEX to be served by 4 carriers. AC, AM, CZ and probably 4O.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

..........

The Mexican carriers' stories are more exciting in my mind. Interjet sounds like a given. Imagine YVR-MEX to be served by 4 carriers. AC, AM, CZ and probably 4O.

Firstly, what is the "40" you refer to? Secondly, when might the flights to MTY and GDL start up, do you think, and at perhaps what frequency. Daily? ... this is exciting news.

[Orcair]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

Firstly, what is the "40" you refer to? Secondly, when might the flights to MTY and GDL start up, do you think, and at perhaps what frequency. Daily? ... this is exciting news.

4O = Interjet's IATA code afaik

[Klazu]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

The Mexican carriers' stories are more exciting in my mind. Interjet sounds like a given. Imagine YVR-MEX to be served by 4 carriers. AC, AM, CZ and probably 4O.

That would be crazy unless that's connecting traffic to Asia flights. Hoping to see cheap MEX flights...

[nname]

Originally Posted by Klazu

That would be crazy unless that's connecting traffic to Asia flights. Hoping to see cheap MEX flights...

And at that time, AC would rouge YVR-MEX and start dumping seats

[mezzanine]

a little PR piece from BIV, but it really shows how the 787 is changing how AC looks at YVR and how long thin routes are finding a niche in YVR. No surprise that J/higher-yielding pax is driving AC YVR growth, no surprise that AC is "considering launching other routes out of Vancouver to “Asia and the South Pacific”" due to the dreamliner but I was surprised to learn that YVRAA is angling for mumbai.

VAA CEO Craig Richmond suggested that a future Air Canada route out of YVR on Dreamliner aircraft could be to Mumbai, which is India’s financial centre.

That route could be in the cards given that the airline already plans to launch non-stop flights between Toronto and Mumbai, on Dreamliner planes, starting in July 2017.

“Mumbai is a logical route for us,” Richmond said. “We’re actually starting to see some cities that so far have not been on our list [of potential new routes] become viable, like Barcelona. That’s a real opportunity.”

Smith stressed that any new long-haul route out of Vancouver would require demand from business travellers.

That rules out new non-stop flights to faraway vacation destinations, such as Bali, Indonesia.

“Bali is very far for a predominantly leisure route,” he said. “These types of routes, because you’re carrying the fuel so much further, if there’s no business component, it’s pretty hard to make the route viable.”

https://www.biv.com/article/2016/11/dreamliner-opening-skies-increased-yvr-traffic/