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This time, edluva and citywatch should come! HA!
I want to play spin the bottle with "edluva" - just us two playing for starters, thx - and see just how sharp his tongue is off SSP
     
     
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I'm up for the 31st... I'll create a Facebook event page tonight or tomorrow and post the link so we can plan it.

UPDATE: Here's the link to the Facebook event page. I don't think you have to be a member to RSVP... Anyone and everyone is invited!

Location, date and time is up for discussion.

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=129134600461994

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^ Very nice shot! From Eric's place?
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Old Posted Jul 14, 2010, 10:08 PM
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The renovation of Civic Park is breaking ground tomorrow. I'll be extremely happy if it turns out to be anything remotely like what's shown in this rendering -- an expansive green lawn, lush landscaping, and Jacaranda trees!

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Curbed says LA Times' Hawthorne is happier

As the Thursday groundbreaking for the downtown's new civic park draws near, Los Angeles Times architecture critic Christopher Hawthorne gives his take on the updated green space and provides some juicy tidbits. First off, Hawthorne, originally skeptical about the Rios Clementi Hale design, has warmed to the numerous revisions. He likes the idea to bring unfettered chairs to the park (shown) that can be moved and rearranged to parkgoers liking. Hawthorne is also fond of the park's north-south pathways based on Goode projectors and made to represent the city's diversity.

He also likes the idea to line the park with food carts, the plan to build two support buildings--one being a Starbucks near Grand Avenue--that will bookend the park, and the idea to have the Music Center operate the green space; Hawthorne believes that will allow more outdoor music experiences for the public. (ED: Please NO Grove-like SINATRA)

A compromise has been made, Hawthorne writes, between the added green space and the numerous underground garages and entrance/exit ramps: "In that sense the park is a symbol of the hurdles Los Angeles as a whole faces in trying to retrofit its civic spaces for a future in which cars no longer play such a dominant role in urban planning or daily life." Hawthorne also gives a nudge to city benefactor Eli Broad to throw some bucks at adding outdoor public art.

· Civic Park in Downtown Beginning to Take Shape [LA Times]
· Downtown's Civic Park Likely Finished by Next Mayan Apocalypse [Curbed LA]
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 14, 2010, 11:44 PM
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First look at architecture, furniture for Civic Park


By Christopher Hawthorne, Los Angeles Times Architecture Critic
July 14, 2010
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Downtown's $56-million Civic Park is finally showing signs of life — and not just because construction crews have begun working this week on the sloping site between the Music Center and City Hall, with an official groundbreaking ceremony scheduled for Thursday morning.

Over the last several months, a late-in-the-game effort by the park's designers, Rios Clementi Hale Studios, to give it a crisper look and strengthen its overall conceptual framework has paid real dividends. The design still shows the strain of trying to answer to dozens of interested public officials and constituent groups and their differing visions of what the park might be. Yet it has also begun to assert, for the first time, a coherent aesthetic identity.

There is another reason for growing — if still measured — optimism about the park's future: The president of the Music Center, Stephen Rountree, confirmed Tuesday that the Music Center has been in preliminary talks with officials from Los Angeles County, which owns the 12-acre park site, to take over management of the park and its programming.

Under the Music Center's control, the park could become an extended front yard for the Los Angeles Philharmonic, Los Angeles Opera, Center Theatre Group and other organizations. In the most optimistic scenario, the Music Center's involvement could help spur fundraising for more sophisticated performance facilities than the ones now in the works. Imagine a new band shell in the center of the park, designed by a leading contemporary architect, as a spot for Gustavo Dudamel to lead the L.A. Phil in more intimate outdoor concerts than are possible at the Hollywood Bowl.

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That ambitious marriage of architecture and programming remains a long way off. For now, the main challenge at the park, which was funded by a $50-million payment from developer Related Companies as part of its now-stalled Grand Avenue mixed-use project, remains the same: how to squeeze an effective design into a tricky, sloping site pockmarked with underground garages and concrete ramps. In that sense the park is a symbol of the hurdles Los Angeles as a whole faces in trying to retrofit its civic spaces for a future in which cars no longer play such a dominant role in urban planning or daily life.

In the design's most meaningful change, Rios and his colleagues have added a series of curving north-south pathways, some as narrow as 18 inches and others as wide as 6 feet, to an existing backbone of straight east-west corridors. The design of the new paths is loosely based on a so-called Goode projection, a kind of mapping best known for providing a way to display the Earth's surface on a two-dimensional surface.

As Rios explains them, the paths, whose curving lines recall those of a Goode map of the globe, emerged from an effort to think broadly about the remarkably diverse population the park is meant to serve. (As he likes to point out, an astonishing 92 languages are spoken by students in the Los Angeles Unified School District.) As a design gesture, the new paths turn those ideas about Los Angeles and its role as a global city into an organizing principle, at least abstractly, for the park and how visitors will move through it. Rios and other designers in the firm also studied maps and diagrams showing plane trips across the globe as well as various car and sea routes.

That concept is matched by the selection of plants, which rejects a doctrinaire or limiting insistence on natives in favor of a wide (but drought-tolerant) range of trees and flowers that aims to match the cosmopolitanism of the city as a whole. A preliminary plan to bring a collection of food trucks to a paved section near Spring Street could broaden the park's food offerings in much the same way

Along with slipping in a small dog run at the northeast corner, in the shadow of the Criminal Courts building, Rios Clementi Hale has also designed a pair of new support buildings at each end of the site — the park's first pieces of architecture. These are basic, attractive modern buildings beneath oversized sloping roofs. The one at the western side, near Grand Avenue, will hold a Starbucks; the other, on the edge of a large event lawn at the foot of City Hall, will serve as an ancillary building during concerts and also will be available for rental for birthday parties and other celebrations.

The firm has also designed a series of chairs, tables and other street furniture. Executed in a curving, streamlined style and colored a bright magenta, the furniture adds precisely the jolt of contemporary style that park has been missing.

And in a significant victory for good design, the firm convinced county officials to allow it to keep many of the chairs unattached — rather than bolted down for security reasons — so that visitors can move them around from the sun to the shade, or vice versa, and in the process begin to feel that the park is in some sense theirs to shape.

Significant questions still hover over the park and its future. One is whether an additional $27 million in state funds — already approved but caught up in Sacramento's budget crisis — will ever come through.

Another is whether Eli Broad, in negotiating the right to build a museum for his own collection on a city-owned piece of land at Grand Avenue and 2nd Street, will offer to lend sculpture or other outdoor-ready artwork from that collection to the park — or if he will underwrite an effort, perhaps in conjunction with the Museum of Contemporary Art, to curate a series of rotating outdoor exhibitions.

Broad said a few weeks ago that he was looking into such a program. But he's been publicly silent on the topic since then.

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Can any of you Downtowners confirm whether or not there are cars still parked in the parking lot in front of City Hall?
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Great shot, KOTH. You managed to catch Concerto and Watermarke. And the Ritz is one heavyset lady from that viewpoint.
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The additions of greenery and the idea of activities in the park are both big improvements over the original ideas and over what is there now.

I am still doubtful about how many people will go there but with these changes and the Broad and some residential in the area, it should be a positive change. Let's see what Music Center management can come up with.
     
     
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From the Los Angeles Times:

Eli Broad museum site gets preliminary city OK, but a rival arts use suddenly emerges
July 15, 2010 | 1:34 pm



A potential roadblock to Eli Broad's plans for a downtown museum housing his contemporary art collection sprang up Thursday while he was en route to securing a unanimous OK from commissioners of the city Community Redevelopment Agency to plant a $100-million facility on publicly owned land.

Now vying for officials' consideration is a rival plan to build a 3,000-seat theater and training center for a tradition-steeped Chinese performing arts company on the same parcel at Grand Avenue and 2nd Street. Behind the proposal is Shen Yun Performing Arts, which has brought shows to the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion, the Orange County Performing Arts Center and other major venues and says it will stage more than 400 performances this year in 30 countries.

Shen Yun's spokesman, Shizong Chen, briefly presented its plan to the CRA/LA board during a 20-minute hearing at the Central Library that preceded the board's vote in favor of the museum, which may become known as the Broad Collection, a la New York City's Frick Collection. Chen complained that Shen Yun had tried since February to present its proposal to the redevelopment agency but was ignored.

Now, he said in an interview after the vote, the group will try to make its case to the remaining government bodies that have to sign off before Broad can start building the museum -- the Los Angeles City Council, the county Board of Supervisors and a Joint Powers Authority of city, county and state officials that's in charge of the $3-billion Grand Avenue project.

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I've never seen a more smarmy performance than Shen Yun, at the Music Center. It all felt like propaganda. They had recruiters going up and down the aisles passing out literature trying to get you to join Falun Gong, or donate. I thought it was going to be traditional Chinese dance. Apparently I and 3/4 of the rest of the attendees thought the same thing and split during intermission. What a joke.
     
     
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I would suggest that they set up shop in Hollywood or on Bway where there is an enormous amount of available theater space.
     
     
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My lord.....I am disturbed how Curbed LA bloggers are reacting to Eli Broad's plans to build his art museum in LA.
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My lord.....I am disturbed how Curbed LA bloggers are reacting to Eli Broad's plans to build his art museum in LA.
Yeah, that's why I hardly ever read the comments on Curbed LA! There are only a handful of posters on there that I align with. I think Chris Loos is one of them. There are a few more.
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Thanks for posting the larger renderings Westsidelife. I only hope that it turns out even a tad bit like the renderings suggest. I STILL think it is imperative to remove the two county buildings to really open up that space to parkland so that it touches that sidewalks and not circumscribed by those ugly hulking buildings.
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My lord.....I am disturbed how Curbed LA bloggers are reacting to Eli Broad's plans to build his art museum in LA.
Curbed LA is where intelligence goes to die. I can't stand the comments there as they remind me of the comments on Youtube.

In any event, I like the new park. But the county buildings need to go.
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Just how soon the County buildings go will greatly hinge on the success of the park. If it's an instant hit, then I could see them gone by the end of the decade.

But I'm happy this thing has finally gotten off the ground. Civic Park today, Pershing Square tomorrow!
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