YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

virgin america is going to start is it not?

I read someone's facebook and he sais he was flyng virgin america to california - I assumed he left from here as he lives here

Flying from SEA.

[MalcolmTucker]

Just thought all you YVRers would just love this:

Originally Posted by CTrainDude

I'm mainly a lurker in this forum, but thought this might catch a few glipses here...

[Gordon]

That's good news for Calgary.

Hopefully Air Canada will restore the majority of the Asian services that they have cut from YVR in the last couple of years, and if they don't those slots should be released for other carriers to filll

[Yume-sama]

I think with that you will see a lot of Japanese people coming through Vancouver, driving through the Rockies (most likely on a tour bus) and then going home, more easily.

OR the other way around, as I could see people wanting to spend a couple of days in Vancouver... but umm... yeah, not the other way around.

Calgary is traditionally a gateway to the Canadian Rockies and people hop on a bus as soon as they arrive.

[spaceprobe]

why to Tokyo? There are so few Japanese people in all of Canada, and especially few in Calgary. Why not to China or somewhere where there are more immigrants?

[Yume-sama]

Originally Posted by spaceprobe

why to Tokyo? There are so few Japanese people in all of Canada, and especially few in Calgary. Why not to China or somewhere where there are more immigrants?

Tourism! You would be very surprised at the amount of Japanese tourists who go through the Rockies. They are actually quite well known in Japan. You will see a half dozen JTB (Japan Travel Bureau) buses any given day in places like Lake Louise, Banff, etc. Obviously they came through Vancouver, and now, they won't have to fly back to Vancouver before going home to Japan.

If it were not for that, there would be no way this route would make sense economically, even if it is only a 3x per week seasonal route.

[mr.x]

Originally Posted by Gordon

The media reports on yvr 's Olympic plans mention temporary terminal facilities being built.
Does anyone know where it is being built?

According to the Sun, it'll be built next to Sea Island Centre Station.

[bar1967]

Forgive me if this was already posted...

American Airlines has loaded the schedules for its planned Chicago – Calgary (eff 05APR10) and Chicago – Vancouver (eff 10JUN10) service in Summer 2010.

Schedules are:
Chicago – Calgary
AA3733 ORD1515 – 2012YYC CR7 D
AA3734 YYC0805 – 1220ORD CR7 D 06APR10-

Chicago – Vancouver
AA2397 ORD0910 – 1135YVR 738 D
AA2398 YVR1230 – 1830ORD 738 D

[Yume-sama]

Interesting, we already have 3x daily with United (codeshare with Air Canada). I have had positive experiences with American Airlines, from the sounds of it I might be alone

[bar1967]

and for the Olympics from AC..

Air Canada 10 Winter Olympics extra domestic service

As per 18NOV09 GDS timetable display, Air Canada is operating extra flights as well as increase capacity on selected domestic routes during the 2010 Winter Olympics. Note some of the existing flights may be operated by larger aircraft on selected dates. Other 2010 Winter Olympics related operation by Air Canada can be found here.

Following are the schedules for extra flights.

Vancouver – Calgary
AC2010 YVR1030 – 1249YYC E90 28FEB10 / 02MAR10
AC2010 YVR1130 – 1349YYC E90 01MAR10

AC2021 YYC1335 – 1402YVR E90 28FEB10 / 02MAR10
AC2021 YYC1535 – 1602YVR E90 01MAR10

Vancouver – Edmonton
AC2045 YEG1825 – 1902YVR 763 01MAR10

Vancouver – Montreal 11FEB10/12FEB10, 24FEB10 – 03MAR10
AC2182 YVR2355 – 0738+1YUL 32S x345
AC2129 YUL2100 – 2334YVR 32S x345

Vancouver – Toronto
AC162 YVR1730 – 0055+1YYZ 763 11FEB10/12FEB10
AC2152 YVR2330 – 0655+1YYZ 763 28FEB10
AC162 YVR2345 – 0710+1YYZ 763 08FEB10
AC2156 YVR2355 – 0720+1YYZ 763 11FEB10/27FEB10/28FEB10/01MAR10

AC1137 YYZ0830 – 1038YVR 763 12FEB10
AC1167 YYZ1100 – 1259YVR 77W 01MAR10
AC2151 YYZ2030 – 2238YVR 763 28FEB10/01MAR10

During the Olympics period, certain flights sees larger aircraft operating on selected days. In addition, there may be extra flights operated during this periods, not just on selected dates.

Vancouver – Winnipeg 12FEB10 – 28FEB10 only
AC2098 YVR2045 – 0121+1YWG 320 67
AC2099 YWG2110 – 2217YVR 320 67

[Rusty Gull]

Originally Posted by Yume-sama

Interesting, we already have 3x daily with United (codeshare with Air Canada). I have had positive experiences with American Airlines, from the sounds of it I might be alone

I was not happy with my last Chicago-Vancouver experience on United. I'm looking forward to some much-needed competition on this very lucrative route.

[Rusty Gull]

Originally Posted by spaceprobe

why to Tokyo? There are so few Japanese people in all of Canada, and especially few in Calgary. Why not to China or somewhere where there are more immigrants?

Aviation routes aren't driven by immigration - although some immigrants do travel frequently to their home country. But they are driven by business travel and by tourism. And sometimes they are driven by logistics, especially when the airport is a major hub (the Vancouver-Denver service comes to mind - and even the YVR-KIX route played that card, until Air Canada killed it)

[spaceprobe]

one things that's always confused me is why Air Canada doesn't fly from Vancouver to Frankfurt. They even fly Calgary to Frankfurt, but don't fly from Vancouver even though I would have thought Vancouver was a bigger market.

[wrenegade]

Lufthansa does, don't they code share?

[Gordon]

Ac Codeshares with Lufthansa To Frankfurt Ac 9100

[Yume-sama]

Believe me you'd rather have Lufthansa service than AC Service. Lufthansa is very highly regarded, in the league of Singapore Air and Emirates.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Yume-sama

Tourism! You would be very surprised at the amount of Japanese tourists who go through the Rockies. They are actually quite well known in Japan. You will see a half dozen JTB (Japan Travel Bureau) buses any given day in places like Lake Louise, Banff, etc. Obviously they came through Vancouver, and now, they won't have to fly back to Vancouver before going home to Japan.

If it were not for that, there would be no way this route would make sense economically, even if it is only a 3x per week seasonal route.

Except tourism from Japan to Canada has been dropping like a stone for years. The time for this route was 10 years ago.

Actually, its rather a stupid move by AC, as they're merely siphoning off traffic from the YVR-NRT route. Those Rockies-bound tourists who landed in Calgary had no other option but to return through YVR, and YYC-YVR is a short, easy connection.

[Yume-sama]

Well, I would be surprised if the route DID become more than 3x a week Spring - Summer season route. I just can't see the demand for it, but surely, they know things we don't.

I imagine people could connect in Tokyo to other Asian destinations like Singapore, and China, with other airlines in the Star Alliance.

Korean Airlines will also be flying a 747 in to Calgary a couple of times per week during the Summer, and ANA does several charters with a 747.

[Yume-sama]

As I thought, you can book flights to Singapore from Calgary through Air Canada, connecting in Tokyo with Singapore Airlines. It is about $200 more than a standard flight to Tokyo.

That is actually pretty good, and opens up that part of the World, a lot easier, for people in Alberta / Saskatchewan.

[s211]

Originally Posted by Yume-sama

Believe me you'd rather have Lufthansa service than AC Service. Lufthansa is very highly regarded, in the league of Singapore Air and Emirates.

LH rocks.