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Old Posted Aug 5, 2026, 12:48 PM
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Speaking of, it seems like a lot of the Rite Aid lots are developing rather quickly. The one on Fairmount is already 3 stories up, the one at 5th and Passyunk has been demolished and foundation work has started, and I just passed the one at 9th and Christian and demo has started there. I am glad that many of them are not sitting vacant for long.
What's going on with the 7th and Dickinson Rite Aid? Seems like a prime development spot.
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Old Posted Aug 7, 2026, 3:10 PM
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I heard it’s a new proposal. High rise. That’s all I know.
I attended the meeting last night (forgot to take a picture) but the proposal looked great, much better than the previous proposal. Shorter than Riverlofts, I think 118 apartments, a predominantly brick exterior. Boxwood architects. Hope it happens!
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I attended the meeting last night (forgot to take a picture) but the proposal looked great, much better than the previous proposal. Shorter than Riverlofts, I think 118 apartments, a predominantly brick exterior. Boxwood architects. Hope it happens!
That's disappointing, tbh. That mean's its what, 7 stories?

This site should be a 20+ story building.
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That's disappointing, tbh. That mean's its what, 7 stories?

This site should be a 20+ story building.
Yeah it's hard to believe something like at least 10 stores wouldn't make sense 3 blocks from Fitler Square and 3+ blocks from Rittenhouse Square... arguably the most walkable/amenity laden location in the city. Wondering if my Nimby Fitler Square neighbors would have fought a higher building...?
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Old Posted Aug 7, 2026, 5:11 PM
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Should be 20 floors taller in this location, however, what a huge upgrade over that Rite Aid. I’ll take this handsome looking building any day. Also, with how tough financing is for new construction right now, I’m happy to see they’re pushing to start construction ASAP.
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Wondering if my Nimby Fitler Square neighbors would have fought a higher building...?
They might have but you'd think the developer could have safety gone up to the height of Riverflofts or the Rosy's Taco building without much grief.
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They might have but you'd think the developer could have safety gone up to the height of Riverflofts or the Rosy's Taco building without much grief.
You'd think so, but 2204 Walnut nearby had to fight for 10 stories with the commission
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Old Posted Aug 7, 2026, 5:35 PM
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You'd think so, but 2204 Walnut nearby had to fight for 10 stories with the commission
This. I think that the developer was a bit scared off by this process.

We can't let perfect be the enemy of good. I'd prefer this be above 12 floors, but as others have said it's a decent enough design that will represent a significant improvement over the existing lot. Build it!
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Old Posted Aug 7, 2026, 10:35 PM
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Looks great. I don’t mind the height. After visiting enough cities in Europe, I’ve realized over time height is a bit overrated.
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Old Posted Aug 7, 2026, 10:59 PM
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Looks great. I don’t mind the height. After visiting enough cities in Europe, I’ve realized over time height is a bit overrated.
But this isn't Europe...

There are plenty of ways Philadelphia can emulate European cities, but the corner of 23rd & Walnut deserves a top-tier high-rise (remember the proposed Mandeville Place?). Given the sloped site, I have a feeling the developer will get away with a 5-over-2 special.

That said, I’m glad to see the site developed, but this proposal is pretty basic. And seeing people rush to defend it kind of proves how much we’ve settled into the mindset of “well, it’s better than nothing.”

Also, if this were in a major European city, the height might be similar, but the building itself would likely be far more ambitious. A brick cladded box isn’t offensive, but it’s hardly groundbreaking (and we all know the final product will be VE'd and flatter than these snazzy renderings).

I don’t mean to sound like a downer. I just think this is basic infill on an A- site. The location deserves something better.
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I like it, definitely gonna make the Neighbourhood a little nicer
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Meant as a light discussion topic. One of Philadelphia's longest-running problems... Retaining talent.

Anecdotally, I've seen young people online make this complaint: Unless you work for Comcast, in medicine/healthcare, hospitality, or have a remote job, a lot of the region's high-paying corporate jobs are out in the suburbs. At that point, many just depart for NYC or DC. Another random example: I have a friend at Salesforce in Chicago and wants to relocate to Philadelphia, but his role isn't easily done remotely. Salesforce has East Coast offices in NYC, Boston and DC, but nothing in Philadelphia, or the burbs. Obviously, Salesforce is just one company, but I think it's a good example of the larger issue. But how does the city address it?... Philly has become a more attractive place to live, but that only gets you so far if the jobs aren't here.


Gen Z is coming to Philadelphia, but they aren't finding jobs that will keep them here
https://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia...z-pew-report-philadelphia-retention.html

That's according to a new report from Pew Charitable Trusts, which found that members of Philadelphia's 176,000-person Gen Z workforce generally want to stay in the city long-term but see more career opportunities and pay raises in competing cities.

Pew conducted a series of focus groups with Gen Z Philadelphians in the fall of 2025 to understand what brought them to the city, and what would make them leave.

"They want more opportunities in fields outside the city’s dominant healthcare sector; they have mixed views on the value of college — another dominant sector in the city; and many express affection for Philadelphia and chagrin about having to leave to pursue their careers," the report concludes.

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Meant as a light discussion topic. One of Philadelphia's longest-running problems... Retaining talent.

Anecdotally, I've seen young people online make this complaint: Unless you work for Comcast, in medicine/healthcare, hospitality, or have a remote job, a lot of the region's high-paying corporate jobs are out in the suburbs. At that point, many just depart for NYC or DC. Another random example: I have a friend at Salesforce in Chicago and wants to relocate to Philadelphia, but his role isn't easily done remotely. Salesforce has East Coast offices in NYC, Boston and DC, but nothing in Philadelphia, or the burbs. Obviously, Salesforce is just one company, but I think it's a good example of the larger issue. But how does the city address it?... Philly has become a more attractive place to live, but that only gets you so far if the jobs aren't here.


Gen Z is coming to Philadelphia, but they aren't finding jobs that will keep them here
https://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia...z-pew-report-philadelphia-retention.html

That's according to a new report from Pew Charitable Trusts, which found that members of Philadelphia's 176,000-person Gen Z workforce generally want to stay in the city long-term but see more career opportunities and pay raises in competing cities.

Pew conducted a series of focus groups with Gen Z Philadelphians in the fall of 2025 to understand what brought them to the city, and what would make them leave.

"They want more opportunities in fields outside the city’s dominant healthcare sector; they have mixed views on the value of college — another dominant sector in the city; and many express affection for Philadelphia and chagrin about having to leave to pursue their careers," the report concludes.
One would hope that said companies would begin to see Philadelphia as a growth opportunity for this reason, but to your point DC and NYC are but an hour train ride away.

Our proximity to both of these cities is simultaneously a blessing and a curse.
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Meant as a light discussion topic. One of Philadelphia's longest-running problems... Retaining talent.

Anecdotally, I've seen young people online make this complaint: Unless you work for Comcast, in medicine/healthcare, hospitality, or have a remote job, a lot of the region's high-paying corporate jobs are out in the suburbs. At that point, many just depart for NYC or DC. Another random example: I have a friend at Salesforce in Chicago and wants to relocate to Philadelphia, but his role isn't easily done remotely. Salesforce has East Coast offices in NYC, Boston and DC, but nothing in Philadelphia, or the burbs. Obviously, Salesforce is just one company, but I think it's a good example of the larger issue. But how does the city address it?... Philly has become a more attractive place to live, but that only gets you so far if the jobs aren't here.


Gen Z is coming to Philadelphia, but they aren't finding jobs that will keep them here
https://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia...z-pew-report-philadelphia-retention.html

That's according to a new report from Pew Charitable Trusts, which found that members of Philadelphia's 176,000-person Gen Z workforce generally want to stay in the city long-term but see more career opportunities and pay raises in competing cities.

Pew conducted a series of focus groups with Gen Z Philadelphians in the fall of 2025 to understand what brought them to the city, and what would make them leave.

"They want more opportunities in fields outside the city’s dominant healthcare sector; they have mixed views on the value of college — another dominant sector in the city; and many express affection for Philadelphia and chagrin about having to leave to pursue their careers," the report concludes.
I'm a young Millennial/elder Gen Z/Zennial, depending on where you place 1995 in the generational continuum. I am fortunate to have found a well-paying career at a company I am very passionate about, but when I first graduated from college in 2018, the struggle to find a position in the city was a real conundrum. I thought that finding an entry-level finance role would've been easy at the time, but the market was more competitive than I had anticipated. I ended up taking a role in Chadds Ford out of desperation (I didn't want to graduate without a job lined up), and I only lasted six months after having to deal with the most hellish commute I've ever done--I lived in Cedar Park at the time, so I'd walk to 46th Street, take the El to 69th Street, and transfer to the 111, which would take 2 hours on a good day and more than 3 on the worst days.

My recommendation to those preparing to graduate from college and/or early-career professionals who love Philly but hate the fact that many of the best-paying jobs are in the suburbs, is to consider finding a role in NYC and commuting by Amtrak. I'm required to commute to DC at least once a month, and I'll go up to the NYC office a few times a month. I can go from my front door in Northwest Philly to Penn Station in about 2 hours. For DC, I can do the same thing in less than 3 hours if I time the transfer correctly. If you purchase your tickets ahead of time, then Amtrak isn't that much more expensive than the SEPTA/NJT trip up to NYC.

Ultimately, I'd love to see more of these corporate roles return to the city. If I had unlimited powers, I'd implement a system of tax disincentives for companies that place themselves away from high-capacity transit to encourage them to move back into the city. If companies must remain in the suburbs, then I'd prefer them in Conshohocken or Radnor than Blue Bell or Dresher.
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I too am a zillenial (older gen-z) who lives in the city and I think Philly hits the sweet spot for a lot of people. The jobs situation inside the city is concerning and that should be the mayor and governor's #1 goal. BUT, on the other hand places like NYC, Boston and DC have gotten so expensive because of the amount of high-paying jobs and the ability of highly paid remote workers and wealthy individuals to live there by choice.

I have lived in NYC and Philly and I much prefer Philly because I can save and spend. My friends in NYC can really only do one and I personally worry about their financial future. Anecdotally, I have a barista friend who makes $10/hr+tips (far too low in 2026, but I digress) and they are able to eat out most nights and rent a 3bd house in South Philly with one other roommate. In what other major East Coast city can you do that? I can only think of Baltimore.

I also think it is worth noting that Philly is one of the few cities that has weathered the financial crisis, COVID and the current cuts to research and funding really well. Right now, places like DC and Boston are really struggling and there are no guarantees that they will bounce back. Boston Especially, has not only had funding cuts, but also competition from Philly and the Triangle.
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I too am a zillenial (older gen-z) who lives in the city and I think Philly hits the sweet spot for a lot of people. The jobs situation inside the city is concerning and that should be the mayor and governor's #1 goal. BUT, on the other hand places like NYC, Boston and DC have gotten so expensive because of the amount of high-paying jobs and the ability of highly paid remote workers and wealthy individuals to live there by choice.

I have lived in NYC and Philly and I much prefer Philly because I can save and spend. My friends in NYC can really only do one and I personally worry about their financial future. Anecdotally, I have a barista friend who makes $10/hr+tips (far too low in 2026, but I digress) and they are able to eat out most nights and rent a 3bd house in South Philly with one other roommate. In what other major East Coast city can you do that? I can only think of Baltimore.

I also think it is worth noting that Philly is one of the few cities that has weathered the financial crisis, COVID and the current cuts to research and funding really well. Right now, places like DC and Boston are really struggling and there are no guarantees that they will bounce back. Boston Especially, has not only had funding cuts, but also competition from Philly and the Triangle.
Yeah older gen-z here as well. My partner and I are both in STEM, and the market is kinda tough here (especially in or near Center City). The jobs do exist, but entry-level is rough and most are out in the 'burbs. I love Philadelphia though, and we just bought our first home in West Mount Airy (transit, walkability, trees, and turnpike access ), which I'd imagine would be a pipe dream in any other east coast city (aside from Baltimore).

Speaking of: has anyone been watching / tracking the developments going on up here in Northwest (Mount Airy / Germantown)? Seems to be a handful of 5-over-1's and some infill going up along Mt Pleasant in Mt Airy and along Germantown Ave in both neighborhoods. I'm curious what the sentiment is on Mount Airy and Germantown nowadays...
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Speaking of: has anyone been watching / tracking the developments going on up here in Northwest (Mount Airy / Germantown)? Seems to be a handful of 5-over-1's and some infill going up along Mt Pleasant in Mt Airy and along Germantown Ave in both neighborhoods. I'm curious what the sentiment is on Mount Airy and Germantown nowadays...
Germantown/East Mt. Airy would have blown up 20 years ago if the regional rail ran frequently. The housing stock is incredible and affordable.
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Germantown/East Mt. Airy would have blown up 20 years ago if the regional rail ran frequently. The housing stock is incredible and affordable.
Agreed. Unfortunately, trying to run Regional Rail at frequencies below 30 mins is trying to shove a square peg in a round hole.
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Agreed. Unfortunately, trying to run Regional Rail at frequencies below 30 mins is trying to shove a square peg in a round hole.
I think everyone would be really happy with every 30 mins...it's currently every 2 hours on Sat/Sun for Chestnut Hill east and west lines. I know it's a money issue, just saying.
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