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Old Posted Apr 15, 2025, 7:04 PM
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Talk about hypocrites! Or does Lantsman have too much $$$ she doesn't know what she has invested in?

Deputy Conservative leader invested in Brookfield while attacking Mark Carney for running the investment giant
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/other/de...running-the-investment-giant/ar-AA1CTdVR
Big deal, Ive owned Brookfield stock in the past as part of a diversified portfolio.

Anyone can buy Brookfield on Questrade or National Bank brokerage etc

Insiders like Mark, frequently short sell or dilute their own shareholders like me and Melissa. Not saying this was the case with Brookfield, as I cant recall why I sold for coffee change returns. Point is, me and Melissa are not getting special company stock options or privileges that come with C suite corporate jobs.

Melissa was not an insider at Brookfield like Mark. This is objectively apples and oranges.

Me and Melissa took a measured risk by buying Brookfield stock , whereas Carney had a cushy C suite job and could only fail upwards.
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2025, 7:07 PM
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Big deal, Ive owned Brookfield stock in the past as part of a diversified portfolio.

Insiders like Mark, frequently screw over or dilute their own shareholders like me and Melissa.

Melissa was not an insider at Brookfield like Mark. This is objectively apples and oranges.
I don't really care what you invest in - politicians are held to a higher standard.

I understand the narrative now - CPC does it - no issue, Liberals do it, end of the world.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2025, 7:12 PM
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More hyperbolic, borderline mental illness.
Not acceptable. You've been warned.
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2025, 7:13 PM
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You must really want another week off to think things over
Read Marshsparrows insane comment for context, respectfully.
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Trudeau also raised OAS eligibility from 65 to 67. So you're just fear mongering and ringing alarm bells.
I'm finding conflicting stories on this. I read that Harper put it up to 67 and Trudeau walked it back to 65.

https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-soci...-age-security-pension-from-67-to-65.html
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2025, 7:14 PM
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I don't really care what you invest in - politicians are held to a higher standard.

I understand the narrative now - CPC does it - no issue, Liberals do it, end of the world.
What political initiatives or legislation did Melissa push for that specifically favored Brookfield? Please cite sources.

This is a huge speculative leap.
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2025, 7:17 PM
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I'm finding conflicting stories on this. I read that Harper put it up to 67 and Trudeau walked it back to 65.

https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-soci...-age-security-pension-from-67-to-65.html
It's all part of the CPC narrative - they can't remember what Harper did and what Trudeau had to fix. Harper and Pierre raised to 67 - Trudeau walked it back to 65.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2025, 7:17 PM
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I'm finding conflicting stories on this. I read that Harper put it up to 67 and Trudeau walked it back to 65.

https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-soci...-age-security-pension-from-67-to-65.html
Thank you for bringing this up. Im not completely sure. I always assumed that every 10 years,, the sitting government, regardless of party, could continually raise it by 2 years.

Is it possible he later raised it back to 67 after the pandemic?
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2025, 7:20 PM
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What political initiatives or legislation did Melissa push for that specifically favored Brookfield? Please cite sources.

This is a huge speculative leap.
She criticizes Brookfield and their practices and yet she is a stockholder - both her and her spouse... that's rich.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2025, 7:20 PM
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It's all part of the CPC narrative - they can't remember what Harper did and what Trudeau had to fix. Harper and Pierre raised to 67 - Trudeau walked it back to 65.
Sunnybrae brought up a legitimate question that we're admittedly unclear on (as I assume neither of us are close to retirement age) and you're just making noise.
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Thank you for bringing this up. Im not completely sure. I always assumed that every 10 years,, the sitting government, regardless of party, could continually raise it by 2 years.

Is it possible he later raised it back to 67 after the pandemic?
I'm not sure. I went to the horses mouth so to speak and checked the Government of Canada website.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2025, 7:22 PM
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She criticizes Brookfield and their practices and yet she is a stockholder - both her and her spouse... that's rich.
Yet no issue with Trudeau's net worth going from 5 million in 2014 to an estimated 96 million as of 2024?

Compare that to growth of the S&P/TSX indexes
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2025, 7:26 PM
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Yet no issue with Trudeau's net worth going from 5 million in 2014 to an estimated 96 million as of 2024?

Compare that to growth of the S&P/TSX .
People really need to stop trusting AI generated web content. Doubly so if its coming out of India.

Trudeau is wealthy, but not that wealthy.
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2025, 7:28 PM
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Yet no issue with Trudeau's net worth going from 5 million in 2014 to an estimated 96 million as of 2024?

Compare that to growth of the S&P/TSX .
Not sure where you brought up Trudeau's net worth in this post recently, but again much to the disappointment of so many CPC supporters - HE ISN'T RUNNING!

I guess it helps to have a large inheritance and investments to fall back on...
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/qu...-is-and-how-long-hes-been-pm/ar-AA1w26vi
     
     
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I don't know what the future holds for the Tories. Even after this election and they hold the Liberals to a minority, it will still go down as one of the most shocking loses in Canadian political history. I don't care for Dougie but he is right, "the truth hurts".

Even if the Tories had chosen a more likable and balanced leader such as Chong, they would still be in a political pickle. The difference in opinion between Liberals and NDP across the country are very small. You don't have different priorities from one region to the next. A BC Liberal thinks the same as one in Ontario or Nova Scotia.

The Tories are in the exact opposite situation. What Western Tories think is often FAR right of what they do in On/Qu/AC. You have a real and clear division between the 2. Even if you had a far more personally palatable and progressive leader like Chong, he would lose much of his Western support especially in Alberta & Sask. These right-wing Western supporters have shown that they are willing to jump ship and go elsewhere ala Reform.

I'm at a complete loss as to what they can do about the situation but it has truly become a noose around their neck.
     
     
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The Conservatives just needed someone who was a uniter instead of a divider. Someone who is patriotic for the whole country, not just their voters and hateful to everyone else. Instead, they went with a mean, petty, smug jerk off of a guy imaginable. I'm confident that if Jean Charest or Erin O'Toole were leaders they would be sitting where Carney is in the polls.
     
     
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Seeing how salty the CPC maple maga crowd is on this forum, knives will be out for Pierre that is for certain!
     
     
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The Conservatives just needed someone who was a uniter instead of a divider. Someone who is patriotic for the whole country, not just their voters and hateful to everyone else. Instead, they went with a mean, petty, smug jerk off of a guy imaginable. I'm confident that if Jean Charest or Erin O'Toole were leaders they would be sitting where Carney is in the polls.
Charest, O'Toole, Mulroney, Ford - they'd all be +20% and be able to keep a unified party together and none of them would have relied on Jenni Byrne...
     
     
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If you earn $57,000 a year you save $900 in taxes under Poilievres tax plan.
Yes, and a smaller amount under Carney's plan. But are either of these good ideas when we have a massive deficit? Isn't that what PP has been crowing about? How will that even bigger deficit hole be closed now?


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And Public Sector employees have it extremely good compared to private sector workers, especially self employed like myself paying double CPP.
How will that change under PP? It's well documented that the public sector pays well for basic jobs, but the ceiling is far lower for higher end positions.

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Just dont pretend that the LPC hiring 140,000 federal public sector workers and bloating the size of govt by 40% in 10 years , directly helped a private sector worker or self employed contractor making 60k a year
I know self-employed contractors, nobody makes anything like $60k in that realm. More likely they are billing at ~$200/hr.
     
     
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Thank you for bringing this up. Im not completely sure. I always assumed that every 10 years,, the sitting government, regardless of party, could continually raise it by 2 years.

Is it possible he later raised it back to 67 after the pandemic?
You should probably google some basic facts before posting about them.
     
     
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