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View Poll Results: Who has the more positive vision for Canada's future?
Mark Carney's Liberals 176 73.95%
Pierre Poilievre's Conservatives 62 26.05%
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2025, 4:47 PM
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I would like to see Poilievre campaign manager Jenni Byrne, and the rest of her Maple MAGA crew go 0-4 in elections.
That too
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Id like to see another 4 years of Liberals destroying Canada because I believe virtue signaling is more important then actual policy.

I think doubling the industrial carbon tax will have NO EFFECT on the economy AT ALL and the fact that the individual carbon tax has been " reduced " not actually cancelled is great too. Id like to severely hurt the nation and have more crime and drugs and higher prices because .....

Oh I stand with Ukraine ( lol )

Conservative bad I guess

-Average Liberal

* feel free to loose your minds now, I know you want to.

Please defend the Liberal policy.
Please explain what policy is destroying Canada? But the fact you mention Ukraine which is only a right left issue because everything Biden=bad suggests you are beyond reason and only following conspiracy theories.

Of course the industrial carbon tax will continue to degrade out industrial output but it's still pretty minor in the scheme of things.
     
     
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Federal resources minister accuses oilpatch of 'seemingly looking to profit' from trade troubles, amid debate over energy policies

https://calgaryherald.com/business/jonathan-wilkinson-oilpatch-letter-energy-policies


This is what liberal leadership looks like… demonizing the major oil company’s, when they simply suggest now is the time we break away from the dependence of the USA.

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“It is disappointing to see the CEOs of major Canadian energy companies seemingly looking to profit from actions being taken south of the border — to the long-term detriment of your shareholders and Canadians generally . . . After spending millions of dollars over the past few years speaking to your sector’s commitment to environmental sustainability, you arrive here.”
What a joke this guy is.

Shitty leadership, who instead of taking a lead and being a partner to break our dependence they continue to be roadblocks. Shitty leadership like this guy is why we will continue to be handcuffed to the USA.

Hopefully Carney can set the record straight.

I swear the F I heared Carney say he’d use emergency powers to build these major projects, then his minister comes and says something so contradictory. Like the production cap… messaging all over the map contradicting each other.
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Smith recently went on Breibart News, to blame Trudeau for the tariffs, and failed negotiations with Trump.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/...f-negotiations-first-mar-a-lago-meeting/

It should be noted that Smith has made multiple trips to the US since Trudeau went to Mar-a-Lago, without any success. She also goes out of her way to pump up Poilievre's tires, and state he would be the better politician to negotiate with Trump.

So in other words, we have a Quisling that has clearly chosen Trump over Team Canada, who also happens to be under RCMP investigations for corruption, endorsing Poilievre on an American far right TV media outlet.

These people really do live in their own little bubble, and are oblivious to the best interests of the Canadian people.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2025, 5:55 PM
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Federal resources minister accuses oilpatch of 'seemingly looking to profit' from trade troubles, amid debate over energy policies

https://calgaryherald.com/business/jonathan-wilkinson-oilpatch-letter-energy-policies.
The bigger issue, is Danielle Smith, who happens to be the biggest oil and gas lobbyist in Canada, putting a gun to the head of Canada, demanding a list of concessions to be met within six months, or else she will try and get Alberta to break away from Canada, or as she puts it "an unprecedented national unity crisis."

She has not only sided with America in the trade dispute, but she is openly working to undermine Canadian sovereignty, and is exploiting the situation for her own benefit.
     
     
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The factual history won't convince anyone who thinks the private sector would have just automagically built this, if it wasn't for Trudeau. They've absolutely convinced themselves.
In addition to the issues with private investment, it's important to note that the O&G lobby, its supporters and its political champions have done an incredibly poor job advocating for pipelines in a way that would actually win people outside of Alberta over. While there would likely always have been some opposition to new pipelines, it did not become a mainstream concern in this country until the Harper government created a political climate where large swathes of the electorate no longer trusted the decision-making process regarding O&G. By muzzling scientists, gutting environmental regulations/review processes, vilifying environmental/FN groups and disregarding legitimate concerns from voters along pipeline routes, the Harper government lost the credibility it needed to sell pipelines to people in BC and Central Canada. Opposition to pipelines coalesced and galvanized.

Learning absolutely nothing from the experience, proponents for pipelines in this country are still out here trying to catch flies with vinegar.
     
     
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Alberta: "Don't tread on me."

Also Alberta: "If you don't tread on those other provinces, we'll leave."

At least when Quebec threatens to separate it's not based on the feds not sufficiently imposing enough on other provinces.
     
     
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The bigger issue, is Danielle Smith, who happens to be the biggest oil and gas lobbyist in Canada, putting a gun to the head of Canada, demanding a list of concessions to be met within six months, or else she will try and get Alberta to break away from Canada, or as she puts it "an unprecedented national unity crisis."

She has not only sided with America in the trade dispute, but she is openly working to undermine Canadian sovereignty, and is exploiting the situation for her own benefit.
I wonder if Danielle is a Russian asset just like Herr Adolf Drumpf???
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I wonder if Danielle is a Russian asset just like Herr Adolf Drumpf???
No idea. But the fact that she attacks Carney more than Trump and chooses not to attend a national council with all the Premiers is very revealing. She should be ignored and so should Alberta's priorities till they elect someone who can actually make time for meetings.
     
     
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She's gunning for the governorship.
     
     
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She's gunning for the governorship.

She is in for an unpleasant surprise if that is she end goal. If Trump ever does annex Canada, we would just be a territory like Puerto Rico. The GOP is very aware of the fact that Canada would be a habitually Democratic stronghold.


We would be exploited just like any other colony of America.
     
     
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She is in for an unpleasant surprise if that is she end goal. If Trump ever does annex Canada, we would just be a territory like Puerto Rico. The GOP is very aware of the fact that Canada would be a habitually Democratic stronghold.


We would be exploited just like any other colony of America.
Well Alberta would be a purple or even red state. I suspect we will see threats of that starting should Carney win a majority. Trump would love the wedge.
     
     
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The bigger issue, is Danielle Smith, who happens to be the biggest oil and gas lobbyist in Canada, putting a gun to the head of Canada, demanding a list of concessions to be met within six months, or else she will try and get Alberta to break away from Canada, or as she puts it "an unprecedented national unity crisis."

She has not only sided with America in the trade dispute, but she is openly working to undermine Canadian sovereignty, and is exploiting the situation for her own benefit.
If she’s a traitor to the country she should be dealt with accordingly.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2025, 7:42 PM
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Well Alberta would be a purple or even red state. I suspect we will see threats of that starting should Carney win a majority. Trump would love the wedge.
Even in Alberta, the Democrats would easily carry Alberta. They did hypothetical polls in 2020, asking which President Canadians would choose.

It was 84-16 Biden. In other US elections, I don't think the Democratic candidate has ever dropped below 73% in any election. There would be a chance that some areas of southern Alberta would choose Trump, but that was obviously before his annexation threats. Edmonton, in particular, is a NDP stronghold, as the city has voted NDP in nearly every riding in the past 3 provincial elections. Even in Calgary, the NDP won 14 of 26 seats in 2023.

There is no place in Canada where Trump is popular. In the event of a Succession vote, which Smith alludes to, my guess is that 80% of Albertan say "NO." It's not even close. At any rate, I can see Trump and MAGA exploiting this division, and directing propaganda towards Alberta and Saskatchewan, to either separate or join the USA.
     
     
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Smith has proven herself to be very sympathetic to the idea of a 51st state. She seems to be going out of her way to break the Team Canada approach. She is holding a gun at Canadians heads on one side while Trump is doing the same on the other. The reality is that no matter what Ottawa proposes, even if very supportive of the energy sector, it will not be good enough for her.

Unfortunately, there is nothing Ottawa can do to stop her as that can only be done by Albertans themselves.
     
     
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Nanos also still maintained a +1 CPC lead.

I have a feeling polls will go whack during the campaign, especially in QB
Yeah Quebec is definitely somewhere to watch to see if the Liberals end up gaining quite a few seats as long as the current momentum stays. I've said this before but it's going to be very difficult for the Bloc to campaign on its usual stuff.
     
     
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Yeah Quebec is definitely somewhere to watch to see if the Liberals end up gaining quite a few seats as long as the current momentum stays. I've said this before but it's going to be very difficult for the Bloc to campaign on its usual stuff.
If Trump follows through on his threats to annex Canada, it would affect Quebec the most. The Americans would try everything to erase the French language and culture, especially considering how the Americans feel about Macron and France.

Warts and all, Canada was founded with two official languages.
     
     
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Smith recently went on Breibart News, to blame Trudeau for the tariffs, and failed negotiations with Trump.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/...f-negotiations-first-mar-a-lago-meeting/

It should be noted that Smith has made multiple trips to the US since Trudeau went to Mar-a-Lago, without any success. She also goes out of her way to pump up Poilievre's tires, and state he would be the better politician to negotiate with Trump.

So in other words, we have a Quisling that has clearly chosen Trump over Team Canada, who also happens to be under RCMP investigations for corruption, endorsing Poilievre on an American far right TV media outlet.

These people really do live in their own little bubble, and are oblivious to the best interests of the Canadian people.
Agree with everything you have said here. You're bang on.
     
     
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I'm guessing Nepean-Carleton is where Carney will be running?

Also where will Evan Solomon run?
     
     
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