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Old Posted Aug 14, 2023, 10:32 PM
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Yeah, it makes no sense to me based on charging time rather than kilowatts used.
Imagine BC Hydro charging the same for 2 hours use of an LED lightbulb versus 2 hours use of an incandescent light bulb.
Cars will charge more slowly as they reach 80-100%. By charging for time, you're encouraging people to move on and free up the charger for somebody who needs it more.

That said, Tesla has recently changed to per kWh after they were given permission by the Federal government. The prices are pretty high (varies but usually over 40 cents/kWh).

Whether that will lead to more people camping out at superchargers, we will see.
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0 to 180 km in 10 minutes: B.C. Hydro rolls out faster electric vehicle charging stations

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B.C. Hydro has unveiled plans to install new charging stations it says can add as much as 180 kilometres worth of range to the average electric vehicle in 10 minutes.

The utility says the new 180-kilowatt units will be added to its network as soon as this fall, with even more scheduled to arrive in 2024.

The first communities to get the new faster-charge stations are Surrey, Manning Park and, north of Prince George, Mackenzie and Tumbler Ridge.

B.C. Hydro president Chris O'Riley says both current and prospective electric vehicle owners have said they want improved coverage in more rural parts of the province in order to address range anxiety.

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The new stations will also be the first from B.C. Hydro to offer power sharing, which lets two different vehicles use the same unit to charge at the same time.

The adoption of electric vehicles in B.C. is much higher in southern urban areas than rural, northern ones, according to statistics from the provincial government made available in 2022.

The figures showed about one in every 45 people owns a zero-emission vehicle in the southwest regions of the province, but that number drops to one in 232 in the Kootenays and one in 414 in northern B.C.

The number of public charging stations closely corresponds to the number of zero-emission vehicles in various regions.

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B.C. Hydro says it currently has 153 charging units at 84 locations across the province with plans to add an additional 3,000 ports over the next 10 years.
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Old Posted Sep 8, 2023, 7:52 PM
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Manning Park is always a busy EV charger and there's only 1 of them. Hopefully they install more than 1 of these new ones.
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Manning Park is always a busy EV charger and there's only 1 of them. Hopefully they install more than 1 of these new ones.
There are 2 chargers at the Hope Slide Viewpoint.
Not sure if these would work on your car.

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Old Posted Sep 10, 2023, 3:36 PM
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Manning Park is always a busy EV charger and there's only 1 of them. Hopefully they install more than 1 of these new ones.
The press release says 2 at a time but at half the power. Still it will be faster than the very busy Manning Park 50kw charger.
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There are 2 chargers at the Hope Slide Viewpoint.
Those chargers are getting to be pretty busy too. Luckily I can drive from Vancouver to Manning Park and back past Abbotsford before I need to get a bit of charge to make it home. If there's a charger available at the Hope Slide I'll stop there for a bit, which is nice because it's free - but if not then there are plenty of places to charge in the valley.
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It's underappreciated how impactful it will be that Tesla's North American Charging Standard (NACS) has been adopted this year by most EV brands selling in the North American market. It means that basically all BEVs going forward will share a common charging plug and charging stations will be accessible to all (new) BEVs.

From a user experience perspective, NACS is generally considered superior to the Combo Charge Standard (CCS) standard that was previously preferred by the legacy automakers. CCS combines the SAE J1772 connector preferred by the North American and Japanese automakers and the IEC 62196 Type 2 (CHAdeMO) connector that is the EU's preferred standard. So to accommodate two different standards in a single physical connector, the CCS charger plug is bulky, the cable is heavy, and the charging station unit is larger and more expensive than its NACS equivalent. By comparison, the NACS cable is significantly more slim in profile, lighter, and more flexible, and the plug is much smaller, allowing the aperture on the car to be more easily incorporated into its design.


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The majority of the 50,000+ Tesla Superchargers around the world use the 'v3' charging unit that offers 250 kW max charging rate. The 'v4' charging unit is the new standard for Superchargers and supports 350 kW charging. This permits even faster charging and matches the 350 kW max charging rate of the CCS charging standard.

To expedite deployment of Superchargers, Tesla has developed a modular pre-fabricated unit of four chargers and the central transformer that can be trucked out and installed as a single piece. The Buffalo Tesla factory basically just makes Supercharger units and this modular unit is now being manufactured there. The v4 Supercharger and new Megacharger for long-distance trucking will also be deployed as modular units.


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Anyway, the mass conversion this year to NACS has included Ford, GM, Honda, Volvo, Polestar, Rivian, and Nissan. Mercedes already adopted NACS and VW is known to be in negotiations to adopt the standard, too. Electrify America, which is the largest non-Tesla charging network in the US (and was started by VW as part of the settlement for its 'Dieselgate' fraud program), has announced that it is going to convert over to NACS for future charging stations and will steadily retrofit its existing CCS infrastructure to add NACS hardware.
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There are 2 chargers at the Hope Slide Viewpoint.
Not sure if these would work on your car.

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Yep they do, I have a Tesla but I have the right adapter.

FYI Hope Slide is a good one because they are free. Cell service is spotty there which is why, I think.

Range anxiety is an issue (emphasis on the anxiety) but I can make it from downtown Van to Penticton without charging if I want. I usually end up stopping in Princeton for a break and not to take any unnecessary risks.
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The press release says 2 at a time but at half the power. Still it will be faster than the very busy Manning Park 50kw charger.
Loading sharing is fine. One person can be hogging a charger and getting 25kW which is just annoying for everybody.
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Yesterday I was all over and noticed many different gas prices .. usually they're pretty close to the same... range from 155.9 (Grandview/Clarke) to 176.9 (Marine/Fraser) and everywhere in between.

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Your gas is currently cheaper than it is in the interior! O_o
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Let's not forget, these dramatic shifts in the cost of fuel - twenty cents up then forty or more cents down - are the fault of the three-cent-per-litre carbon tax increase last April...
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When gas prices go up they tell us the cost of everything increases because everybody uses gas. Patiently waiting for everything to decrease now.
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Let's not forget, these dramatic shifts in the cost of fuel - twenty cents up then forty or more cents down - are the fault of the three-cent-per-litre carbon tax increase last April...
Ignore that 60% of the price of gas is related to taxes and bragging about $0.03 being a non-factor

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news...om%20the%20B.C.%20Utilities%20Commission.
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Ignore that 60% of the price of gas is related to taxes and bragging about $0.03 being a non-factor

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news...om%20the%20B.C.%20Utilities%20Commission.
The article you linked to said all the taxes charged represent nearly 40% of the price of gas. As it gets cheaper, and as some of the taxes are per litre, not a percentage, that might be a bit higher, but surely not as high as 60%?
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The article you linked to said all the taxes charged represent nearly 40% of the price of gas. As it gets cheaper, and as some of the taxes are per litre, not a percentage, that might be a bit higher, but surely not as high as 60%?
Gas would have to be 98 cents a litre for the taxes to make up 60% of the price you see at the pump (54.61 cents per litre in fixed taxes, plus another 4.67 cents per litre in GST). At about $1.65 a litre (just kind of ballpark for the current price in Metro Vancouver) taxes make up 37.8%.
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Ignore that 60% of the price of gas is related to taxes and bragging about $0.03 being a non-factor...
Didn't ignore, certainly didn't "brag" - but you already knew that. The point stands, Poilievre makes a big fuss about the carbon tax having a supposedly devastating impact on consumers but goes dark when the price cycles by twenty times as much (+20 to -40 cents).
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Gas would have to be 98 cents a litre for the taxes to make up 60% of the price you see at the pump (54.61 cents per litre in fixed taxes, plus another 4.67 cents per litre in GST). At about $1.65 a litre (just kind of ballpark for the current price in Metro Vancouver) taxes make up 37.8%.
LOL, “just” 37.8%
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The article you linked to said all the taxes charged represent nearly 40% of the price of gas. As it gets cheaper, and as some of the taxes are per litre, not a percentage, that might be a bit higher, but surely not as high as 60%?
Maybe in 2030
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