[Burnaby] Southgate City | U/C & Proposed

[Lexus]

2024-03-17

DSC00307 by Lexus RX350, on Flickr

[jollyburger]

This latest phase will consist of four buildings, which are expected to be constructed in two phases.

The first phase will include a 36-storey high-rise concrete condo tower called Jade 1 and a six-storey wood-frame rental building. Jade 1 will consist of 35 studio units, 120 one-bedrooms, 150 two-bedrooms, and 18 three-bedrooms, for a total of 323 units. The rental building will then consist of 18 studio units, 46 one-bedrooms, 46 two-bedrooms, and five three-bedrooms, for a total of 115 units.

This phase will provide a total of 371 vehicle parking spaces and 441 bicycle parking spaces across a shared four-level underground parkade.

The second phase will see the construction of a 44-storey high-rise concrete tower called Jade 2 and a six-storey woodframe condo building. Jade 2 will consist of 50 studio units, 138 one-bedrooms, 190 two-bedrooms, and 23 three-bedrooms, for a total of 401 units, while the wood-frame building will then consist of 23 one-bedrooms, 60 two-bedrooms, and 12 three-bedrooms, for a total of 95 units.

https://storeys.com/ledmac-burnaby-southgate-city-jade/

[officedweller]

Wow, looks like it could be on Marinaside Crescent circa 2001.
But they still look better than a lot that's being built these days
(See Richmond Centre thread).

[Lexus]

2024, May 31

Untitled by Lexus LX, on Flickr

[officedweller]

Former site of Safeway distribution centre.


Southgate City Project in Burnaby to Launch Retail Hub in 60-Acre Community with Thousands of Highrise Homes
https://retail-insider.com/retail-in...mes-interview/


https://retail-insider.com/retail-in...mes-interview/



https://retail-insider.com/retail-in...mes-interview/

Right across from the park:


https://southgatecity.com/

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Former site of Safeway distribution centre.


Southgate City Project in Burnaby to Launch Retail Hub in 60-Acre Community with Thousands of Highrise Homes
https://retail-insider.com/retail-in...mes-interview/
https://southgatecity.com/

A couple blurbs from the article:

Public amenities will include a five-acre central park, a 60,000-square-foot public plaza, five kilometres of bike paths, eight kilometres of pedestrian paths and a new community centre.

...

“We have roughly 25,000 square feet of second floor retail/medical space that we can see being leased to physiotherapists, dentists, specialty medical, small and mid format fitness operators. Retail that can thrive in a second-floor setting and take benefit of the slightly reduced rents in comparison to ground floor space,” said Clark.

The first phase of the commercial part of the overall development will be under construction soon with businesses expected to be open by 2028.

...

I don't remember them announcing a community centre (without it being specifically for the residents) before so that's good, considering how many people will be living here. I found this amusing:

“The interesting thing about this area is that it’s going to consist on buildout of 12,500 homes and upwards of 33,000 residents in 60 acres. Very dense. It’s a city. It’s larger than many small city’s/towns in the province,” said Clark.

[osirisboy]

I’m happy to see the sticking medical/dental on the second floor and keep more interesting on the ground.

33,000 ppl is pretty good!

[mcj]

That's a whole Port Moody!

[Changing City]

That's not a credible population number for 12,500 new apartment units. If you look at Metrotown's population and housing for example, there would be about 24,500 people in that number of units. If they were building more SFDs in Southgate City, and around it, a larger number might be achievable, but they're not. And that's presumably partly replacing some existing homes, so the net gain could be a bit smaller.

[dleung]

This whole scheme is too greedy. A cluster of towers 1-1.5km away from Edmonds station, without frontage on any major streets, and with basically no transition to the SFH surrounding it? The residents are mostly gonna be driving unless they live at the western most portion of the site, which is still a 10-15min walk to the station. This should've been closer to the densities at the bus depot site in CoV, tapering off to the east

[mcj]

Originally Posted by dleung

This whole scheme is too greedy. A cluster of towers 1-1.5km away from Edmonds station, without frontage on any major streets, and with basically no transition to the SFH surrounding it? The residents are mostly gonna be driving unless they live at the western most portion of the site, which is still a 10-15min walk to the station. This should've been closer to the densities at the bus depot site in CoV, tapering off to the east

But then the City of Burnaby might have had to upzone some of those SFHs surrounding it to achieve the same number of housing units, which of course was completely unacceptable to them.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Changing City

That's not a credible population number for 12,500 new apartment units. If you look at Metrotown's population and housing for example, there would be about 24,500 people in that number of units. If they were building more SFDs in Southgate City, and around it, a larger number might be achievable, but they're not. And that's presumably partly replacing some existing homes, so the net gain could be a bit smaller.

In 2022 they were saying:

"The former light-industrial site will become home to 25,000 to 30,000 residents and will incorporate 50 per cent green and open space."

https://vancouversun.com/homes/westc...ed-communities

Their project population projection

2025 5,366
2030 20,136
2055 33,000

The original master plan zoning was for around 5.7 million SF of residential but it's up closer to 11 million SF now?

https://sitings.ca/wordpress/wp-cont...-May-2024r.pdf

[GenWhy?]

Do we know if there is still about 325,000 sf of commercial?

Nvm I just realized how up-to-date that brochure is!

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

https://sitings.ca/wordpress/wp-cont...-May-2024r.pdf

Thanks for the plans.


https://sitings.ca/wordpress/wp-cont...-May-2024r.pdf


https://sitings.ca/wordpress/wp-cont...-May-2024r.pdf

https://sitings.ca/wordpress/wp-cont...-May-2024r.pdf

[jasonpark]

More details of the next phase. I assume Jade 1 and Jade 2 will be the second phase and the Safeway will be the third phase after Jade 1 and 2 are done?

https://burnaby.widen.net/s/96nwmsvd...n---rez-22-31b



seems very curvy

[Lexus]

2024, Sep 20

Untitled by Lexus LX, on Flickr

Untitled by Lexus LX, on Flickr

[Burquitlaman]

Originally Posted by dleung

This whole scheme is too greedy. A cluster of towers 1-1.5km away from Edmonds station, without frontage on any major streets, and with basically no transition to the SFH surrounding it? The residents are mostly gonna be driving unless they live at the western most portion of the site, which is still a 10-15min walk to the station. This should've been closer to the densities at the bus depot site in CoV, tapering off to the east

Yeah. Every time I drive by this place I ask myself why would someone buy here!? Why not just go to Lougheed/Burquitlam that's a short drive away? More transit, more nature, more shops etc.

I really don't like the River District area (not talking about the project, but the area itself), but that area is a short drive away too. Can buy there as well.

I don't get it.

[BaddieB]

The answer is Burnaby would rather allow 40 storeys a 15 minute walk away from a Skytrain station on industrial land than allow 6 storeys right next to one on SFH land. Obviously.

[madog222]

Originally Posted by BaddieB

The answer is Burnaby would rather allow 40 storeys a 15 minute walk away from a Skytrain station on industrial land than allow 6 storeys right next to one on SFH land. Obviously.

Also the developer doesn't need to purchase and assemble dozens of individual lots.

[BaddieB]

You only need to assemble 2 or 3 lots in many areas in Burnaby with bigger lot sizes adjacent to Skytrain. Think Burquitlam, Lake City Way, Production. I don't think Burnaby was concerned about developers' ability to assemble land when it came to their 'Grand Bargain' strategy.