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Old Posted Jun 4, 2024, 2:47 PM
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This article has an interesting rendering of the Canada Post site if you scroll down a bit.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/a...-land-be-the-key-to-solving-the-housing/

I would expect there to be more of a street grid once it gets developed but it does show what a 40 story building would look like which is cool.
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Old Posted Jun 4, 2024, 5:14 PM
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This article has an interesting rendering of the Canada Post site if you scroll down a bit.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/a...-land-be-the-key-to-solving-the-housing/

I would expect there to be more of a street grid once it gets developed but it does show what a 40 story building would look like which is cool.
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Old Posted Jun 4, 2024, 7:39 PM
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add another building on the Mayflower site
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Old Posted Jun 7, 2024, 12:48 PM
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Office to residential conversion seems to be a priority in Halifax. Halifax has been compared to Calgary in terms of interest in converting unused office space to residential.

Calgary – 43 million sq, ft. of office space 30% vacancy
Calgary – 102 corporate head offices

Halifax – 12.16 million sq. ft. of office space
Halifax – 0 corporate head offices

Calgary can well afford to convert some over supply of office space to residential and retain a major corporate presence downtown, but can Halifax?

Maybe resources should be extended to recruiting corporations to Halifax. If the existing supply of office space in downtown is converted to expensive residential, the ability to attract much needed businesses including head offices will be greatly diminished. Who will occupy downtown with commercial presence on the decline?


Office - residential conversion. CBC
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scot...pers-convert-offices-apartment-1.7192817
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Old Posted Jun 7, 2024, 7:25 PM
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Office to residential conversion seems to be a priority in Halifax. Halifax has been compared to Calgary in terms of interest in converting unused office space to residential.

Calgary – 43 million sq, ft. of office space 30% vacancy
Calgary – 102 corporate head offices

Halifax – 12.16 million sq. ft. of office space
Halifax – 0 corporate head offices

Calgary can well afford to convert some over supply of office space to residential and retain a major corporate presence downtown, but can Halifax?

Maybe resources should be extended to recruiting corporations to Halifax. If the existing supply of office space in downtown is converted to expensive residential, the ability to attract much needed businesses including head offices will be greatly diminished. Who will occupy downtown with commercial presence on the decline?


Office - residential conversion. CBC
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scot...pers-convert-offices-apartment-1.7192817
When office space is converted to resi it is generally done with lower B or C level buildings. Companies of any size that want to make a home in an office building want A level buildings or at least a very good B level building. The amount of buildings that will make the switch will have very little impact on the overall supply of office space for national clientele
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Old Posted Jun 7, 2024, 10:14 PM
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Calgary certainly has more and larger corporate HQs than Halifax but there are corporate HQs in Halifax too. There aren't 102 companies in Canada with more market cap than Emera so 102 for Calgary and 0 for Halifax does not seem accurate.

I would expect there to be more demand for office space downtown as the population downtown expands. One planning problem in Halifax is the proliferation of suburban office parks.
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Calgary certainly has more and larger corporate HQs than Halifax but there are corporate HQs in Halifax too. There aren't 102 companies in Canada with more market cap than Emera so 102 for Calgary and 0 for Halifax does not seem accurate.

I would expect there to be more demand for office space downtown as the population downtown expands. One planning problem in Halifax is the proliferation of suburban office parks.
Perhaps you have a better source for corporate head office tallies. This google search shows 102 head offices in Calgary but you may have missed the point. Calgary has a very strong corporate presence and can afford to convert office buildings to residential. Halifax has at least one head office "Emera". Not sure what market cap has to do with leasing a few million sq, ft of office space. You say that you expect to see more demand for office space downtown as the population expands which is exactly what I am saying except we are diluting our commercial space by converting to residential.

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The absolute number of Calgary head ofices has decreased over the past decade—from 123 in 2011 to 102 in 2021, a decrease of 21 head ofices. Although Calgary realized a decrease of 15 head ofices in 2021, down to 102 from 117 in 2020, Calgary maintains the city’s position as Western Canada’s head ofice leader.
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One planning problem in Halifax is the proliferation of suburban office parks.
I've never been convinced that the best plan is to have all major business centralized in a downtown area, but also realize that this isn't an opinion that should be expressed on this forum, so that's all I'll say about it.
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Old Posted Jun 8, 2024, 11:17 AM
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I've never been convinced that the best plan is to have all major business centralized in a downtown area, but also realize that this isn't an opinion that should be expressed on this forum, so that's all I'll say about it.
Oh dear. I never expected you to become a victim of urbanist bullying, Mark.
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Old Posted Jun 8, 2024, 12:57 PM
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Oh dear. I never expected you to become a victim of urbanist bullying, Mark.
I don't want to upset anybody. It seems that my comments have been hurting a lot of feelings lately, even though I haven't been participating here all that much. Apparently I've been driving people away from this board with my insensitive posts.

Just call it the kinder, gentler me.
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Old Posted Jun 10, 2024, 3:29 AM
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I don't want to upset anybody. It seems that my comments have been hurting a lot of feelings lately, even though I haven't been participating here all that much. Apparently I've been driving people away from this board with my insensitive posts.

Just call it the kinder, gentler me.
Although I sometimes disagree with your posts I have never seen anything that would drive people away. This site is a place were we can discuss differences in opinions openly and from what I have seen with respect. People need to realize that different opinions are a good thing that can only serve to strengthen society as a whole. With the exceptions of racism, sexism, and a few other revolting opinions we should all be free to share opinions wether someone likes them or not.
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Old Posted Jun 10, 2024, 2:56 PM
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Although I sometimes disagree with your posts I have never seen anything that would drive people away. This site is a place were we can discuss differences in opinions openly and from what I have seen with respect. People need to realize that different opinions are a good thing that can only serve to strengthen society as a whole. With the exceptions of racism, sexism, and a few other revolting opinions we should all be free to share opinions wether someone likes them or not.
Thanks for the completely reasonable post. I agree that it’s okay to disagree, and in fact such disagreement can often result in a learning experience, and at the very least a chance to be heard and to likewise understand others’ points of view.

Following the drama in the Cogswell thread, though, I remain unsure where to draw the line between frank honesty of my viewpoint, and adjusting my writings such that I don’t hurt the feelings of some participants who obviously have different thresholds for what constitutes a personal attack. As I wade through this, I have to question whether participation here means enough to me to even bother participating. That’s where I’m at.

As a side note, long ago I came to terms with the fact that the internet is full of people with diverse perspectives and motives. No surprise here, but there will sometimes be people whom a reader might be better served to ignore rather than simply falling into their game and letting them ‘play’ you. It’s easy to fall into, especially if you have other stressful or unhappy situations in your real life that you are dealing with, but in the end it’s always better to step away from the forum and take a deep breath, rather than getting drawn into it. I’m still learning, but am much better than I used to be. Hopefully others will take this into consideration moving forward.

That’s all l’ve got. Hopefully nobody will be offended by it, but regardless it’s complete honesty… so agree or disagree, at least it’s real.
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Old Posted Jun 10, 2024, 5:01 PM
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I've never been convinced that the best plan is to have all major business centralized in a downtown area, but also realize that this isn't an opinion that should be expressed on this forum, so that's all I'll say about it.
I agree - I don't think all major business should be centralized. Why should being able to live close to where you work be reserved only for peninsula-dwellers? That doesn't mean I think that the current approach to suburban business parks is healthy though. I feel like mixed-use buildings and avoiding acres and acres of business-only is much better. "Urban," but on a smaller scale.
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Old Posted Jun 10, 2024, 8:40 PM
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Following the drama in the Cogswell thread, though, I remain unsure where to draw the line between frank honesty of my viewpoint, and adjusting my writings such that I don’t hurt the feelings of some participants who obviously have different thresholds for what constitutes a personal attack. As I wade through this, I have to question whether participation here means enough to me to even bother participating. That’s where I’m at.
That entire thing was quite bizarre, between the hit-and-run poster who arrived with guns blazing and was here for a short time before disappearing when not everyone agreed with him, and the cycling activist who seemed unable to grasp why everyone would not fall into lockstep with his views. Not much you can do with certain people and their attitudes. You have done nothing wrong. I would not worry about them.
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Found on Facebook. Wants someone to buy and move a trashy looking house before it gets torn down for a commercial development. Any ideas what the new building is?

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House only for sale. You must move it within 3 weeks. 30,000.00 or best offer. Solid house, need gone for commercial development. Located at 802 Main st in Dartmouth. You can use Google maps to view it. Will require 5000.00 deposit if you want it and remainder paid before dismantle or move. Land not included. All moving labor and costs buy purchaser. Need gone asap
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Old Posted Jun 11, 2024, 4:42 PM
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That entire thing was quite bizarre, between the hit-and-run poster who arrived with guns blazing and was here for a short time before disappearing when not everyone agreed with him, and the cycling activist who seemed unable to grasp why everyone would not fall into lockstep with his views. Not much you can do with certain people and their attitudes. You have done nothing wrong. I would not worry about them.
It was a little bizarre and unexpected for me.

To be clear, I don’t feel I’ve done anything wrong, just reconsidering how I read the room (I think if I had broken SSP rules, the mods would have stepped in). It seems like there’s an underlying anger towards anybody over 50-ish who doesn’t completely buy into today’s flavour of urbanism (or urban planning ideals), and perhaps just being older is enough. I say today’s flavour because most of us over 50 have seen urban planning ideals change many times over the years, and have no reason to believe that today’s ideals are the be all and end all - they too will eventually evolve into something else.

I can’t get into their heads to completely understand where they are coming from, but I can change how I communicate here. Perhaps I need to be more sensitive to their feelings about such topics, and just not state my opinions when they go against popular urban ideas. Or maybe just continue as normal and not worry about it. Perhaps they hate me/us because we represent (in their minds) some general whitewashed version of revisionist history that doesn’t have anything to do with how it really was, but targets “boomers” (and I’m starting to see “gen X” included) as being the cause of all their problems and thus the target of their disdain. I don’t know, and I’m finding myself caring less. I used to be about finding common ground and bringing people together, but now I feel that this very idea is probably distasteful to them.

So… I’m not sure where I go from here. Don’t want to upset people, but at the same time I don’t want to be disingenuous or dishonest. Don’t want to drive our younger, more sensitive members from the board, but then maybe this isn’t something they should participate in - other parts of SSP are much less friendly than here, in my experience. Social media in general brings out the worst in people in many cases.

On a side note, I’ve been considering starting a “Disagreement and argument” thread where people can take their fights rather than clog up the thread in which it starts. Like when halfaxed came out swinging somebody could say “take it to the disagreement thread” and let it play out there. That way, anyone who just wants to read the actual thread topic doesn’t have to wade through the garbage (a complaint of Mr halfwhatever IIRC). Just a thought, but I don’t know if it would work, or what the mods would think about it.

Anyhow… enough about that, now I’m clogging up this thread… lol. Just trying to be a responsible citizen of SSP, and honestly thinking about whether this is even a worthwhile place to spend my time and share my ideas.
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ODM - I have certainly never felt personally attacked or offended by you, and I never said that I did. You seem like a decent fellow (except with your sort of churlish and melodramatic mischaracterizations of the complaint I made here and here after wading through several pages of the usual off-topic squabbling and name-calling.)

I was simply supporting others in saying why several former regulars don’t like to participate here anymore, and I did not name names. Those who took that so very, very, very personally might want to ask themselves why.)

The only thing I had to say to you after you responded was that you have a tendency to go on and on and on debating a topic for several pages, writing lengthy essays in each comment…and then complaining that you don’t like debates that go on and on forever, seemingly with no self-awareness that you are the common denominator in pretty much every one of them in this forum. You just don’t let things go and anyone who wants to catch up with the actual topic at hand, here has the weed through pages of pages of that stuff.

This very thread is a case in point. You two are STILL writing at length about a dustup that happened FIVE DAYS AGO - I guess the truth really does hurt - again with seemingly no awareness that here you are yet again, dragging something out forever.

You gotta let people have their opinions sometimes. You can’t always beat them out of it by wearing them down with more and more explanation and repetition. As you keep saying yourself, not everything has to be a long drawn out debate. Take your own advice.

Or as they say, “be the change you want to see in the world.”

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[QUOTE=Half-Axed;10223277]ODM - I have certainly never felt personally attacked or offended by you, and I never said that I did. You seem like a decent fellow (except with your sort of churlish and melodramatic mischaracterizations of the complaint I made here and here after wading through several pages of the usual off-topic squabbling and name-calling.)

I was simply supporting others in saying why several former regulars don’t like to participate here anymore (and those who took that so very, very, very personally might want to ask themselves why.)


I participate LESS because I don't live in Canada these days but sure enjoy reading posts by Mark and Keith and the rest of the crowd - keeps me up to date on all that is happening in Halifax - need to get to visit someday to see the changes in the city
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I was simply supporting others in saying why several former regulars don’t like to participate here anymore (and those who took that so very, very, very personally might want to ask themselves why.)

I participate LESS because I don't live in Canada these days but sure enjoy reading posts by Mark and Keith and the rest of the crowd - keeps me up to date on all that is happening in Halifax - need to get to visit someday to see the changes in the city
That’s great if the negativity doesn’t bother you. Clearly it does bother some people - several of them expressed their annoyance the other day and I made a comment that supported their comments (and I caught hell because apparently I haven’t paid my dues.)

Anyway, I just wanted to respond because I’m being characterized as bizarrely coming out of nowhere for no reason with wildly inappropriate behaviour, and there is a LOT more context than that. I will comment no further. In fact I think I’ll just delete my account.

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