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Old Posted Jul 2, 2014, 8:41 AM
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Originally Posted by gsjansen View Post
i'm still on the side of the fence that says that the perimeter walls of the underground garage for the state building was a utilization of the existing below grade perimeter foundation walls of the 1911/1912 times building. There is no other explanation that I can think of for why the angled wall was kept in relation to the state building.


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(of course, I could be wrong..........)
Here's the area on the 1921 Baist Map:

Historic Mapworks -- http://www.historicmapworks.com/Map/US/19409/Plate+003/

1931:

LAPL -- http://www.lapl.org/sites/default/fi...ps/map0002.jpg

As previously mentioned, it's easy to see how the garage mirrors the shape of the old Times Building, except for the long angle below the odd NE corner:

Los Angeles Times, October 16, 1938

The death knell of the 1912 Times Building is described here:

Los Angeles Times, August 18, 1937

BTW, looking at old Sanborn maps, it appears that 1st Street was widened from 68 to 110 feet, so perhaps some portion of the south wall of the 1912 Times Building basement still exists under the widened roadway. Broadway is 80 feet wide before 1910 and after 1950.

Contemporary news articles describe demolishing the old Times Building substructure and designing and constructing the new State Building garage; it doesn't sound like much of the old Times Building basements were used, other than the hole in the ground they made. But if the 1938 garage plan is to be believed, it would seem that at the very least the northeast corner 1912 Times Building basement walls were incorporated into the State Building garage structure; why tear out the walls in the NE corner and then rebuild them in that odd shape?:

Los Angeles Times, November 9, 1939


Los Angeles Times, June 19, 1939

If it was such a job to rip out the old Times Building basement at 1st and Broadway, why wasn't the State Building garage built at 1st and Spring instead?

1st and Spring at lower left, 1932 @ USCDL -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co.../33789/rec/158
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