[NorthScottsdale]

i think, while we are all sitting here trying to figure out how to "create" a lively downtown, it is already been getting created. i have to agree with HX guy, pieces of the puzzle are coming together. I was downtown last night, i went to a party with some of my ASU buddies and met up with some of the people that we know that go to ASU downtown. We hung out around 4th avenue and jackson, and it was great. there was more than 100 people there, afterwards a bunch of us went to alice cooperstown and had a few drinks there. a couple years ago, i would never have dreamed of going downtown for anything.
like HX guy said, its coming slowly, but its already becoming created. and cityscape wont "make of break" downtown. it is the smaller projects (new bars, restaurants, new retail) that are popping up here and there that are going to attract the most people. And obviously the condo towers will bring hundreds of new residents downtown, so that will help out tremendously as well