Whats' the lay-out of the Paris suburbs generally? how far out does one have to go for the legendary urbanity to be replaced by commieblocks or modernist (anti-)urban planning?
Stockholm has a very well defined urban core which was mostly built before 1930, it is only in the last decade or so that building anything urban has been done again in Stockholm. The decades since 1930 - and by far the majority today - is modernist enclaves spread out along subway & commuter rail lines and motorways. The original idea was for these suburbs to function as small towns of their own but it never worked and even the planners said that "at least the City isn't far away by subway" (fairly direct quote, that). Then it just kept going, commieblock 'burb after rowhouse 'burb after commie block 'burb... with a splotches of detached single famliy houses. All only connected to the outside by a couple of roads and some of the time subways.
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