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Apologies if someone has already mentioned these.

My take on big box retail includes the large amorphous developments like the South Edmonton Commons (if that's what its called). A terrible invention. For its size, Kamloops stands out (the whole area around Summit Dr. and HWY 1).

Vancouver, of course has plenty big box developments, but the only two I can think of that are like the above are the mess north of Laugheed Hwy and west of the Pitt River Bridge (Fremont Village), and the disaster still being built at Morgan Crossing (South Surrey/White Rock). The last fails at its initial selling concept of organizing retail and residential around walkable intimate streets. They built two of these. The problem is that they are separated by a considerable distance; a space filled with a chaos of big box, medium box, parking and winding unreadable parking access roads. The model itself resulted in roughly two 2-3 block lengths of a kind of traditional street lined with large typical retail units, with acres of parking behind. It is piecemeal at best and at worst it is a blended clusterfuck of scales uses and design efforts which do not add up to anything approaching a coherent urbanity - not for the pedestrian, but not even for the automobile.