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Old Posted Aug 28, 2019, 12:11 AM
LouisVanDerWright LouisVanDerWright is offline
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Originally Posted by Mr Downtown View Post
Related's Clark-Roosevelt site ticks a lot more of the "blighted" designation boxes, including a complete absence of infrastructure. It's pretty unrealistic to expect it to develop but for the presence of a TIF.

The same is not true of land that's already served by streets and sewerage in between Lincoln Park and Bucktown.
Exactly, the 78 was actually vacant for like 40 years because of its lack of infrastructure and the exitence of infrastructure (rail line) that would have to be adjusted and built over.

Then you have Lincoln Yards where the land was in use until Sterling Bay purchased a facility that had just been vacated and demolished it. Those Finkl Buildings would have had another use. They would probably be film studios by now if SB hadn't clouted their way to DX level zoning like a mile away from anywhere that could be considered "downtown" with zero transit access. Cinespace is now going after the Washburne site in Little Village across from their new annex at 31st and Kedzie that's fully lease by Netflix. The Ryerson Cinespace and Lagunitas complex was a former old school Steel mill just like Finkl. They even relocated to a new facility on the outskirts of the city just like Finkl did. The Ryerson complex is also PMD just like Finkl. So you are telling me that some adaptive reuse of those old school clear span buildings wouldn't be possible in Lincoln Park when it had already started happening 2 years before Lincoln Yards was even a public proposal in Douglas Park?

No, Finkl was not blighted and the developer chose to raze functional, marketable buildings. The desired use of DX district with no transit is not related to whether the buildings were "blighted" or not. If it weren't then you could, in fact, just go around calling anywhere in the city that's RS-3 two flats or bungalows "blighted" because it's not yet zoned DX-7 and you want to build 30 story buildings. Better shovel out $1 billion in TIF to build a new skyline for Dunning...

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Originally Posted by ardecila View Post
Maybe, but the development that occurs there in the absence of TIF (and in the absence of new infrastructure) might not be what we want. .

Very NIMBY of you. That's why we need an independent planning function in city hall that actually makes good policy that incentivizes and mandates some of what "We want".
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