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Originally Posted by Crawford

I mean, given that Americans tend to like sunshine, sprawl, and new development, is it shocking that Cleveland doesn't have a glowing reputation?

It's a massive overachiever in terms of high culture (symphony, art, etc.) but I can't see any other obvious draw outside cheap real estate. There aren't too many walkable areas, heavily segregated with little diversity, lakefront is unimpressive, and downtown is fine but not amazing.

Yeah, I'm not saying that Cleveland is paradise or anything. It certainly has its flaws. It just seems to have a national reputation as some complete hell on Earth... when there are FAR worse cities that don't have anywhere near the negative connotations with their names, IMO.