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Old Posted Mar 6, 2023, 9:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut View Post
One can usually tell which corridors are on the SkyTrain list because TransLink gives them a RapidBus first. There's one currently in the works for Phibbs to Metrotown (with bus lanes to match); meanwhile, First Narrows gets nothing.
Well, you've covered the corridors to the North Shore... but not the North Shore itself, which is a large part of the traffic and demand. Any SkyTrain worth its salt needs to do the entire Park Royal < - > Phibbs stretch and pick up the SeaBus terminal on the way, which Norgate does not; it also takes Dunderave and Ambleside off the table. I believe we've been over this.

It's somewhere in the SoF Rapid Transit thread; ATM I don't really feel like clicking through until I find deasine's post.

Meh, Pacific's no better or worse than Waterfront as a terminus, especially in 2035 or beyond. Richmond, Delta or YVR? Expo to Granville, change at City Centre. Broadway? Same thing. Mission? Bus/taxi/(streetcar?) over to Waterfront. North Shore? Same thing, or bus/SkyTrain via Second Narrows. Literally anywhere else? Pacific may very well be closer to it than Waterfront is.

The WCE's basically only there because it's a straight shot from Mission to downtown on a single corridor (i.e. they didn't have to detour, or negotiate with both CP and CN at the same time) - law of parsimony and all that. The HSR's coming up with its own ROW, and so it can basically go anywhere it wants to.
IIRC Translink has stated that building BRT from DT to Lonsdale via First Narrows AND building BRT from Metrotown to Park Royal via Second Narrows are BOTH among the 10-year priorities. It is the mayors that are pushing for Metrotown to Park Royal to be the top priority for both BRT and a subsequent upgrade to Skytrain. Translink has not stated a preferred alignment between First Narrows, Vancouver Harbour, or Second Narrows for North Shore rapid transit.

When a preliminary study of North Shore rapid transit was performed the Vancouver Harbour (Seabus replacement) had the highest ridership projection. But a Skytrain link would be marginal speed improvements over Seabus for the highest cost (completely rebuilding the Expo platform at Waterfront or reconstructing the Canada Line past Yaletown to achieve depths of 50 metres plus tunneling and building another deep, deep platform at Lonsdale would be far more expensive than a bridge). So you would shoot your whole load extending the Canada or Expo Lines by one stop and have no money leftover for the east/west North Shore line.
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