[JMKeynes]

Originally Posted by BuildThemTaller

First of all, you quoted my post in your previous response. Check post #1739.

Second, you are blind if you think only New York is capable of building high-quality towers. I mean, New York City isn't even building the towers, individual developers are doing so. And many of the same developers - SOM, Studio Gang, RAMSA, and many others - are active in other cities in the United State and around the world. My original post didn't even compare NYC to other cities in the US. You shifted the conversation and conveniently failed to consider that many other cities around the world are also building high-quality skyscrapers. You're being myopic if you think NYC towers are on some plane of existence above everyone else. There are many towers being proposed in NYC, like 15 Penn (bringing it back to this discussion) that are atrocious in their design. There is no elegance in this, nothing other than brutal height and mass. For every 1 Vanderbilt, there are half a dozen Gene Kaufman designs in this city. Cherry picking only the cream of crop doesn't really help your argument. It's ok to look at something and just accept that it isn't the best. Hopefully, something nicer and more refined will be built next to it.

Are you taking a rhetoric class at SUNY Stonybrook? You take this a bit seriously. Relax, dude.