[JohnIII]

Originally Posted by wanderer34

I don't have a problem with light rail, but I'd rather expand and renovate the current light rail system we have right now (the subway-surface system of West and Southwest Philadelphia) than erecting a light rail along Delaware Ave. Besides, I'd love to see the city expand it's heavy-rail subway system, but then again, that should've been done during the early 20th century until the 1960's.



My suggestion of extending the MFL into Penn's Landing was specifically as a spur being extended to South Street. I could see two stops along I-95, and both stops would be underground, not elevated. I don't believe having a stop along Penn's Landing is superfluous, the stops need to be spaced evenly to support the frequencies of the service, which is why I'd place one stop between Chestnut and Walnut, and another stop on South St, not does that make any sense?



I don't think a subway along Columbus Blvd is a bad idea neither, but I'm not sure how line from 2nd St on the MFL via South Columbus Blvd to Packer Ave is going to work, considering that most lines not just in Philly, but in NYC, Chicago, Boston, et. al., usually go north to south and east to west. Who knows, all I know is that it would've been better had the subway system been built during much of the 20th century, when we peaked at 2.2 million people than today, when we're still struggling with how to create and provide subway service, let alone regional rail service to the far flung communities such as Allentown, Reading, Lancaster, and West Chester.

I think the old Subway spur went to about South Street; however I think if a spur were built it should be longer; if development takes place along the waterfront you'll have new commuters in high-rises as well as current residential areas and new residents may help justify ridership and fund in time.

The consideration os trolleys on Delaware was done before and an elevated Subway is a thought; the only problem with trolleys is that they are at the mercy of automobile traffic at the cross streets and while it is cheaper the width of Delaware Avenue is to be considered; how do pedestrians access it easily through the traffic without hazard. Washington Avenue and Delaware Avenue aren't like Baltimore Avenue in that Baltimore Avenue is not a multi-lane road and the former is. While a Subway is more expensive it does have safety issues already addressed by pedestrian crossing over the roadway or below.

Yet to stay on topic all I can think of it development of skyscrapers because that will justify any mass transit construction.