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Originally Posted by fredinno
I realize that. It's actually still 2 turns- one turn to get into the bus loop, one to get off it- the connection from the Cordova connector to Canada Place would be removed (it's not necessary, just make it a ped mall)
In fact, I don't even think the connection from Granville to the waterfront is necessary (at least not as an actual road open to general traffic) either nor the Canada Place Extension. Just make them all ped malls/plazas. That would turn the connection to 1 real turn- the turn onto Cordova, which is required no matter what.
You can't put the bus lanes everywhere, and the 4 and 7 would likely be moved onto Cordova next to Waterfront if it was practical. If Powell turns into a transit/ped mall, as has been proposed, and the Coal Harbour Streetcar spur gets built, there's literally high-capacity bus funnels from 3 ends into a single area. Under the current system, the long-route buses would spread out into the surrounding road and sidewalk network. Under this system, you'd design designated corridors that can hold all the buses and is optimized for transit. If you think the former is better, we may have to just agree to disagree.
I would honestly have just put the 'bus loop' on Cordova itself if it had enough space to do so. Move the charter bus and taxi bays to the back of the station.
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Pretty sure
your OP was two turns with an unaltered Cordova. If we're talking about total turns now, that's five - two from Powell to Pender, one onto Granville, two in and out of the hub WB, or two in and out onto Cordova EB. But now we're splitting hairs.
Do you mean closing Water? Powell's staying as-is.
Again, don't mistake any of the bus routes for high-capacity like a BRT; they're all quiet feeder routes that converge and create the
illusion of capacity. Bus lanes are almost entirely unnecessary even by the time the streetcar opens.
What we could do is just reclaim the EB curb lane of Granville-Richards, add bus shelters, and make that a limited interchange for the 4/7 and the N-S routes; it already is, more or less, but this makes it official. Solves your confusion problem and doesn't depend on CP saying yes.
Speaking of the streetcar, there's not a lot of options for it past Water. You'd have to either make Cordova two-way and run the trains in mixed traffic in the centre or curbs (bad idea), or dedicate the WB lanes to the ROW; the latter might work if it terminates at WF for good, but that means the 4 and 7 are stuck on the current route. Probably not going to make it to Coal Harbour either way.