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Old Posted Dec 16, 2019, 6:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Hatman View Post
You stated my position very well.

And thanks, Bob_rulz, for disagreeing nicely while I am angry. You are a first-rate forumer.

I am very much in favor of using government assistance to help out people who need it, and I'm disheartened about what a mess these assistance systems are. My own criteria is that these ought to provide equal opportunities for all residents. It is when equality is extended past opportunities to equal outcomes that I disagree. People are different and should not be made to be equal. The same goes for groups of people.
When it comes to living downtown, I don't see a way to provide an equal opportunity to have everyone live downtown. What we can do is guarantee that everyone has access to downtown. Hence my position against subsidized housing for some and pro free transit for all.

However I acknowledge that theory is often incompatible with the real world and that there is value in running a real experiment. I only wish that this experiment with subsidized housing wasn't given so much priority that people are cheering on the destruction of the old Theater.
Thanks, I do my best to debate things with a level head. I will always admit when I'm not as knowledgeable on a subject as I wish I was though and this is one of the those cases. I don't know what the right answers are, but it's a subject that's very important to me and I'm working on learning more. This ALL interests me - which is why I'm a city planning student.

And yes, our assistance systems are a mess. But that's something that needs to be tackled at the state and federal levels - a city can only do so much, and I think should do what they can. No, we may not be able to provide for a downtown that has equal housing for everybody, but we can certainly do better.

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Originally Posted by Utah_Dave View Post
Give me the Kensington tower with a 75 ft lighted spire!!!

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Ditto! Salt Lake needs more spires!
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