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Old Posted Jan 10, 2019, 3:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Barrelfish View Post
Part of it is the difference in land values, which pressure NYC buildings to go taller, all else equal. For example, one of those 1000+ towers in NYC is 111w57, which at a height of 1428 ft will have ~316000 square feet of space. Wolf Point East, which will be less than half as tall at 629 ft, will have almost exactly twice the square footage (628500). Vista is ~1200 feet tall, and has almost 5x the square footage of 111w57.

Building a supertall, superskinny tower like 111w57 is a really expensive way to get revenue-generating square footage. If you aren't space constrained like NYC, it makes a lot more financial sense to build less tall but on a larger lot. Of course I'm cherry picking a bit, but I think it's a good illustration. It's not that Chicago isn't having a building boom, it's that our building boom isn't as squeezed into narrow needle towers.
Double-check some of that data. I think WPE is somewhere between 900,000 and 1 mil sq ft.....I’ve seen height figures that are a bit higher as well...
Not that this impacts your point, obviously....

In addition to the vast difference in underlying economics, a lot of the financing behind the construction of those types of condo units in NY were essentially predicated on a continual pipeline of foreign buyers (many with questionable asset sources, to put it courteously) paying ever-higher prices....there’s a reality check incoming in that part of the market....
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