[the urban politician]

Originally Posted by emathias

I agree more with moorhosj.

Ok, am I supposed to be surprised--did you start with that statement to appear that you are somehow objective, but ultimately more swayed by one argument than the other?

I stand behind my point. I just believe that shitty values--particularly American values when applied to a lower income setting--more than poverty and opportunity play a bigger role. You obviously think the opposite, and have even gone so far as to tell me that poverty in impoverished Chicago neighborhoods is my fault.

I've been on this forum long enough--it's a heavily liberal site and I know I'm not going to get anywhere with the local crowd. But don't count me as convinced