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Originally Posted by OtrainUser
m begining to see what Truenorth is talking about is alot of people here have complained about suburban growth but are making excuses for it. Well there are no excuses, id rather see 80% of the population live within the greenbelt which is exactly why we have one. Its time for the suburbs and the exurbs to pay for thier own costs and stop expecting urban dwellers to pay for it.
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Why 80%? I doubt if 80% of the jobs in Ottawa work within the greenbelt (an assumption on my part so please prove me wrong if you can). Are you advocating for more people to commute to the suburbs than commute into the city?
I'm advocating for people to live closer to where they work, though that isn't always possible.
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Originally Posted by Truenorth00
I agree that moving isn't practical for most. However, what we see in Ottawa are people deliberately picking locations that are wholly inconvenient to them, for more space. Let's not pretend that couples where both work outside their burb or in the core, are uncommon.
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Do you have any evidence that is is common? People only know who they associate with. If you live and work downtown, the only people you likely know who live in the suburbs work downtown, so your perspective of who lives there is biased by the demographics of those you meet.
This is what I'm talking about when I say we need to stop subsidizing sprawl. Bad enough that we subsidize Kanata, Orleans, Barrhaven and Stittsville. But now some of you want to give discounts to people who live in Rockland. Why? I'm starting to wonder if some of you pay property taxes at all. Cause the mentality on display leads me to think y'all think money grows on trees, with zero consideration to the efficiency of spending and even insistence that less efficient problems and solutions be prioritized.
Yet you have been defending the Confederation line extension to Trim Rd, with the argument that we should be rewarding Orleans. However, with it being at the eastern most edge of Orleans, it will be primarily of benefit to rural residents east of Orleans (like Rockland). Similarly, when I suggested that Stage 3 be limited to Terry Fox (reducing the cost from $1.85B to $710M) because of escalating costs per km combed with significantly lower ridership, you strongly opposed my view, saying it should be extended to Stittsville right away.
You seem to give out mixed messages, saying we shouldn't encourage sprawl but then fight for infrastructure that will do just that.