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Originally Posted by roccerfeller
I don't doubt Saskatoon should have premium facilities, and good for Saskatoon if they can get a state-of-the-art facility built
but comparing the two cities 1:1 is nonsensical
I don't recall any talk, in fact I recall the opposite - MB posters (and AB posters, and posters all around) were very positive about the new Mosaic stadium in Regina. Maybe there was some discussion about the price tag, which is a fair discussion to have and would have occurred had a Winnipeg stadium been for the same price. You need to keep in mind new Mosaic cost 2x more for a similar facility, even if it is nicer and newer, it is similar to IGF in terms of being a "nice new stadium" in a full closed bowl appearance
I've called cities much smaller than Saskatoon home, and cities much larger than Winnipeg home...and consistently comparing Winnipeg and Saskatoon 1:1 is nonsensical. I still don't get exactly why? Where is this fabricated jealousy coming from?
There's nothing wrong with a new arena in Saskatoon being a state-of-the-art facility...I mean, Winnipeg is smaller than Calgary yet has more state of the art sports facilities than Calgary does. I have a postal code in Calgary; I have used the sports facilities in Calgary more than I have in Winnipeg. Doesn't change the inherent differences in market size between Calgary and Winnipeg. What does having a state of the art facility for Saskatoon prove over Winnipeg? Yes a newer facility in Saskatoon will only bring even more names and shows through, I know the difference a good facility can make having had to travel up to Edmonton from Calgary for many shows that skipped us for Edmonton. But what point are you pushing?
Be proud of what Saskatoon has accomplished, but if you're going with that 1:1 angle (which is what I am getting implicitly from your posts) then there's no point to bring up Winnipeg and MB SSPP's in a negative light. What is impressive is how much Saskatoon has attracted in terms of concerts given that Saskatchewan has two major centres, and the fact that Saskatoon is much smaller than Winnipeg - that is impressive for a city it's size.
But to our initial discussion; Winnipeg has had more concerts and shows than Saskatoon:
1) Winnipeg has 2 major facilities in Bell MTS and IGF and many more smaller facilities. More shows come through on that basis alone, from many more indie artists to many more big ticket artists.
2) Winnipeg market is larger than Saskatoon and Regina combined. It is also the only major market in the province. This leads to more attendees, stronger sponsorship opportunities, more market draw, more interest in a wider variety of genres. It is a more varied market in terms of taste than Saskatoon, so certain shows will draw more attendees. Certain artists** will draw more in Saskatoon than they will in Winnipeg, but I am speaking generally
3) The arena alone is busier with 2 pro sports teams using it regularly
4) I had a role in helping bring artists to Winnipeg (and other cities in this country) in a former life. I still know a few people in those roles. I can tell you for a fact that there is more interest in Winnipeg, than there is in Saskatoon, on every end of the music spectrum - from smaller artists to big name ticket sellers. It has more to do with the market draw and numbers of facilities that exist in Winnipeg (though, I can also tell you Saskatoon fares very well for a market it's size)
5) A new arena in Saskatoon, even one larger and more state of the art than Bell MTS won't change 1-4 which are intrinsic factors of the cities themselves
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I think I figured out the problem,
you can't do math properly!!
IGF stadium in Winnipeg opened a year late, cost $210 million
+ another $35 million a year after to repair what wasn't built properly (maybe they couldn't do math either) $245 million total.
New Mosaic Stadium in Regina opened on time & on budget and cost $278 million. With sunk-into-ground field & wind deflecting roof, All LED stadium lighting & high end sound system, state of the art training facilities, video scoreboard slightly larger than the main board at the new Vikings stadium etc.
By doing the math properly, the more technologically advanced New Mosaic
did not cost 2x more than IGF Stadium.
The point I'm making is the reason SaskTel Centre gets just as many if not more concerts than Bell MTS as well as consistently higher attendance at each concert both cities on tours share is likely because even though Manitoba has ~15% larger population than Saskatchewan, the major urban centres of Saskatoon & Regina in the province have ~20% higher median household income than Winnipeg. Also Saskatchewan has a younger average age and therefore a demographic more likely to go to concerts.
I don't make the rules or set policies on what events come to Saskatoon, one of my friend's spouse use to be on SaskTel Centre board of directors and it was explained to me that Saskatoon's persistence & ability to draw large acts through successfully securing and promoting artists to the arena has made a name for itself. Whether people from other cities, such as Winnipeg, like it or not, Saskatoon is consistently in the top half dozen cities in Canada to get national and international performing acts. When acts do only 6 - 8 or so concerts in Canada, Saskatoon is consistently on the list of dates.
https://edmontonjournal.com/entertai...s-place-aug-18
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who_Hits_50!