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Old Posted Nov 28, 2015, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by wwmiv View Post
Clearly his lack of appeal was far from universal since, well, a majority of voters backed him in both of his elections and his approval rating has been consistently, on average, between 42 and 52 since his reelection, and has never been worse than -11 net in his entire presidency. Currently on average 44% approve of Obama's job performance, give or take depending on the poll (Pollster's content is really useful, you two should check it out). And when it comes to personally, Obama has had a net positive favorability rating in Pollster's average since June 15th of this year, has historically been seen net positively, and even in the short stretch of time where he was seen personally net negative he never sunk worse than -5 and there has never been an on average majority that has personally disliked Obama. Ever.

In short, you're simply wrong. There is no widespread dislike or disapproval of the president. Rather, there is a closely divided partisan country where one half loves its people and the other half loves its people and they each hate each others' peoples. Obama is a Democrat, so you work out the math. Bush was a Republican, same thing. But the difference there was tmhat even Republicans ended up hating Bush by the end of his presidency (with average approvals into the 20s at times) and since then even rejecting his preferred policies. Would Bush, as an avid promoter of immigration reform, make it through a primary against Trump? Probably not, since his brother Jeb, who is by some academic measures further to the right than George, can't even do it as a "moderate." It's insane that Obama will have ended his presidency still beloved by their half of the country. In fact, the only Democrat ever to not maintain the backing of ~45% or more of the country throughout most of their presidency was Carter (who faced horrible internal divisions within his party at that time, which resulted in an intense primary campaign with Kennedy which was only narrowly decided at the critical points), and his post-presidency has been a resounding success both professionally, politically, and personally which has done wonders for his image. You cannot say the same about Republicans, who have often ended their presidencies in disgrace (Nixon, Bush II), public rebuke (Nixon, Ford, Bush I, Bush II), or internal party division (Ford, who was primaried by Reagan, Bush I, who was primaried by Pat Buchanan). Only TWO modern Republican presidents were able to maintain the support of a large faction of American society throughout their presidential career, Eisenhower and Reagan, but even the latter was a controversial political figure within his own party prior to his presidency.
Excellent rebuttal
No intelligent comeback on my part other than to say my point was there is no demographic that is left out in terms of disappointment with Obama's performance as our President. But that can certainly be true no matter who is in his position. I guess my personal opinion of Obama helps me to sympathize with the homeless person even though, not knowing the facts of how he got that way, I don't know why he is blaming Obama for his situation.
That being said, no one in my considerable circle, man, woman, black, hispanic, white, straight, gay, young or old, or former vet thinks Obama is doing a good job. In my relatively longish life, I don't remember this big of a united negative opinion against a current president, although George W. came close.
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