^^^ I don't quite agree with TUP here. While I would also prefer that the poverty be pushed out of the urban core if we have to have poverty, I would much rather find a way to permanently address the problem than just push it off to the side. Will there always be poor people: yes. Do we have to have an ongoing system of institutionalized poverty: no.
The fact is institutionalized poverty is BAD for our economy. Why? Because huge quantities of naturally occurring human capital is being wasted running massive drug gangs instead of being educated properly and going on to found a new tech start up or something. Let's say one in ten people is naturally very smart and a natural leader, I would prefer that every single one of those people be put to productive use by society and THAT is my problem with poverty. It is a total waste to have natural intelligence squandered because of drugs, gangs, or inept parenting.
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Originally Posted by Mr Roboto
Chicken or the egg. Why do you even put in the time to help a child study? Why do you care? Oh that's because you have expectations, you have hopes, dreams maybe? Your nitpicky arguing over semantics is rather silly, actually makes me just think you are arguing for arguments sake or something.
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I'm getting pretty bored with this conversation but wanted to say this: It's definitely
not semantics. As the moral crusader of this thread you of all people should realize that it's not just a matter of "if only those minorities expected more of their children, then they'd succeed!". It's ALL about getting parents to put for the extra effort.
Can high expectations motivate parents to put forth that effort? Sure, but don't you think it is just a little insensitive to suggest that high expectations is all it takes to make that effort possible? There are surely thousands upon thousands of impoverished parents who
do have high expectations for their children, but simply are unable to put forth the time for any number of reasons necessary to give their kids that edge. So what you call semantics I call wrong. I call it wrong because it's simply not true.
Now maybe you meant to get across the same point as I am trying to make and we are just trying to say the same thing in different words, but I really don't think expectations is the right word to be using.