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Old Posted Apr 1, 2014, 3:59 PM
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Before you respond, let me explain a little more clearly why TUPs idea of swapping asian students with black CPS students and your idea of swapping Deerfield High student with Harper high students is so freaking stupid.

1. Its obviously impossible and completely based on fiction. It never will be, and never could be, something any of us could actually witness to determine if true. Therefore, its ridiculous and why even bother bringing it up.

2. Even if it were possible, what factors are you holding constant? Do the students have the same parents? Do they bring their current parents to the new neighborhood. Do the Deerfield high school kids actually now have to grow up in Englewood for example? With all the same issues of crime/gangs, poverty, drug use, and police brutality, lack of access to quality food etc etc? Because if so, Id call bullshit on your stupid theory and Deerfield High school students would now perform pretty badly in school as well.

3. By making these statements, you are completely ignoring all the outside forces that made the school problematic in the first place. Which means you are only telling a small portion of the story. In other words, its completely inadequate to make the comparison. But it sounds nice in some neat little package though right? Requires very little mental thought right?

4. They actually probably wouldnt perform quite as well given less resources anyway. Why? Because research has shown less resources actually can affect performance. Is it as significant an impact as parenting, home influences etc? Clearly not.



So please dont bother trying to defend it, since there are much much better ways of making the point that building school condition, computers, teachers, and principals, sports, activities, music program and other resources provided at school do not affect student performance as much as the involvement of parents etc. But even this is a limited statement since it doesnt consider other forces such as criminal activity in proximity of the school, peer influences, and obviously many others. So again, if I havent made it clear yet - quit trying to simplify the god damn issue by making stupid declarative statements that are clearly lacking in support.
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