[edluva]

justincali, while i agree with your comments about citywatch, i'm sure you'll already know i disagree with your fatalistic summary about criticisms (by myself, undoubtedly) toward la projects - that the same major projects (eg. ritz/marriot) would be hailed if plopped down in say boston or new york.

that comment demonstrates your own inability to discriminate projects on your own terms, since, while i understand that taste is a subjective thing, nobody with any respectable knowledge of architecture would agree with your simplistic broad-stroked comment which ignores criticism of any sort. if you read criticism of the downtown ritz carlton, piano's bcam, or wdch, or death star, or lucas's cinematic arts building, or galen center, or h&h, you'd would be able to see how an unbiased view of some of these projects would see them as mediocre failings no matter where they're situated. but you don't, because they're in la.

so in all, it is ironic but i'll take your comment as further confirmation of my earlier feelings that it is actually you who is biased and it is you who lacks architectural discrimination (as well as substance) because you wish to like anything that's proposed in la.

i could care less where a project is situated. i was hailing diller scofidio renfro's broad museum as well as jean nouvel's proposal while i distinctly remember you reacting emotionally to my repugnance of libeskind's dtla proposal awhile back. get off my case - it is my right to hate libeskind. as our city has a manner of doing with many architects, la has made libeskind even worse than usual. and adding insult to downtown - mayne is an architectural quack - whether he builds in la or toronto i could care less. perhaps you should consider the possibiity that i do not dislike proposals for the mere fact of being in la, but rather, that proposals in la tend to be subpar to those of wealthier, more sophisticated cities with the means, the drive, and the context to create intelligently provocative things

i actually believe that la confuses talented architects - there is a relative lack of context and history which critics such as hawthorne have acknowledged (and which i beat him to the punch on) and you prefer to spend your energy attacking me instead of seriously considering these arguments for yourself. you are no less tiresome than citywatch with his inane ramblings about powerlines & unflattering comments. why don't you go beat up some giants fan or something? do you actually care about the sport?

you, among many forumers here, are the first to cheerlead anything new, but are the last to offer a personal distinction as to why you like a given proposal. you have demonstrated no understanding of architecture whatsoever, but are the first to cry murder in order to defend anything that is criticized. you have absolutely no credibility whatsoever.

ask me anything - why do i like diller scofidio renfro's proposal and not gehry's? why do i not care for other pomo darlings of los angeles such as eom, gehry, or mayne? why am i disappointed with the selection of fentress? why do i admire craig ellwood so much? do you have your own opinions, justincali? or just hollow knee-jerk defenses and attacks based on homerism? i suspect the latter.

colemonkee - we are in keeping with the thread topic. this has not gotten bad yet.