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Originally Posted by trofirhen
Good idea to re-open this thread, Delboy. Good timing, as everyone is understandably preoccupied with View Cones, City Hall Morons, and so forth. You made a good choice. It's refreshing.
Vancouver may be on a turning tide, but it's still (seemingly) rather peripheral, and not "mainstream," (which is what I'd like to see. People I know from Montreal - and Toronto, too -- say the nightlife scene here is folksy and blaaaah, still.)
I don't know if Vancouverites will ever "get it." This requires travel, which is $$$$. However, travel is a vital form of education, and without comparisons, experienced by a large part of the population, the Vancouver nightlife scene will remain - alas - "party till you puke," which is a really dirty shame. One can only hope for the best, and keep on sluggin'. Again, thanks for rescucitating this thread. 
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Yes were are most certainly at a start not an end point. I don't buy that it's because we haven't travelled. Half the folks you meet here are from eslewhere. It's more of a case of zoning and bylaws mired in red tape that have become unworkable for those who are trying to do something different.
Change can happen relatively quickly, look at gastown over the past 3 years. There have been an impressive number of resto-lounges and gasto pubs open of late, but there is something missing here, perhaps an easy, casual venue where one does not have to sit on oddly shaped couches drinking 15 dollar martinis. If the city truly relaxes the bylaws and paves the way for simple, licenced live music venues, i'm optomistic that there is an appetite for them.
Not that I care that much about nightlife anymore and am typically in bed well before midnight for fear one might turn into a large pumpkin, but on the odd time I do venture out, it would be nice to have better choices.