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Old Posted Mar 31, 2010, 6:09 PM
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Originally Posted by racc View Post
Actually, from 1997 to 2007, the number of automobile trips entering Vancouver is down by 10% and the number entering downtown is down by 7%. The mode share for automobiles (including passengers)downtown is only 39% while the mode share for trips within downtown is only 10%.

With the Canada Line, increased density, more people living downtown and with cycling improvements, the number of automobile trips will continue to decrease.

http://vancouver.ca/engsvcs/transpor...n-brochure.pdf
There has been a recent shift in car use downtown. But there is no guarantee that will continue. The main contributing factor to the decrease in car use downtown is over the last 10 years we have built an insane amount of condos downtown (so many that economists are baffled our housing market hasn't imploded).

Over the next 10 years, there will be less condo development compared to now, but job centers will continue to expand. There will still be job growth, but there won't be as much population growth in the city of Vancouver. This could lead to an increase in vehicle use. The report also doesn't bring up the growing fad of the reverse commute, where people in the city are commuting to other communities for work.

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Originally Posted by Canadian Mind View Post
Only 30% of the Metro's land area is developed urban area, the rest is ALR. So while I agree with you that dedicated attempts to reduce already existing capacity is stupid, you're going about it the wrong way.

Should compare the surface area of the streets in Paris to the surface area of streets in Vancouver, width of main thoroughfares, etc.

Trofiren would be one to talk to reference Paris traffic conditions, road network, etc.
I don't think I'm going about it in the wrong way. If someone else wants to compare the trends in Paris, you need to see that Paris provides transit in the same geographical area as Translink, but to 10 million people. And that the amount of people driving is the same as the entire population of metro Vancouver, in less total space. The Paris Metro has 245 of it's stations stations located in an area of 87km-squared. That's smaller than the City of Vancouver. Why do people in Paris not drive? because every single building in the City is within 500m of a subway station.

You can't achieve Paris like goals without Paris like Transit. Making life hard on people who drive isn't how Paris did it. They did it by making life easy for transit users. They used the carrot, not the stick.
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