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Originally Posted by zilfondel

Ironically, real cities such as NYC and Frisco have attracted "elites" in part due to their grit... or at least the "creatives" sure get off on it.

Cities such as the 'Couv are about a decade late in following the fads of city revitalization, but they're trying to cherry pick and only cater to the wealthy. Pretty sad... they don't even want to accommodate normal commuters who have to take the bus to work??

I have to be honestly with you, the new city bus system that started last November was the FAR best service I've rode so far. Why?

Fourth Plain #4 bus goes from Vancouver Mall to Downtown Vancouver to Jantzen Beach which meets Tri-Met city bus and then to the light rail at Delta Park which open from 5 in the morning to 12 am which give people more time for work. Also there is #44 Fourth Plain Limited Express which goes similar route as #4, but are extended toward few miles east of Vancouver Mall and faster than #4 and only open from 5 in the morning to 7 pm on the weekday only.

Before November, you have to ride the #4 and then take ANOTHER bus just to get on the Jantzen Beach to grab Tri-Met's #6 bus or the light rail. There is no #44 before November.



Also there is some of city bus that switching two different routes when they reach the downtown, for example, Hwy 99 #37H bus and Mill Plain #37M bus, they are on the same number and same bus. You can just take #37H and stay there till it go to Mill Plain after the downtown without stopping and waiting for another bus.

Before November, you have to take #71 Hwy 99 bus and stop at downtown then waiting few minutes for the #37 Mill Plain bus.


Note that light blue arrow? It's the switching routes.



Also there is NO city buses in Vancouver that open till 10pm-12am before November.

And one more thing, I want to ask. Is it that HARD to walk just blocks by blocks around this cute little Vancouver's downtown for different bus? I thought downtown Portland don't have the transit center in downtown, do they?

When I rode on the city bus to downtown, I felt so different than before because almost everyone is at 7th street, barely see anybody around downtown other than just the 7th street, but now the downtown Vancouver seems like more people wandering around the entire downtown. Also I still remember I can't really smoke the cigarette at 7th street because someone would just come to me and ask for the cigarette (everytime I was smoking there), but now I can smoke anywhere I feel like with fewer people would beg me for cigarette. I don't just support this only because of my cigarette situation, but I was just showing the example about the difference about the 7th street as it used to be and what it is today.

(I copied the city bus maps from this official website: http://www.c-tran.com)