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Old Posted May 25, 2024, 7:36 PM
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The Canadian conundrum so much space so few people in such a rich land. I’m not very knowledgeable about Canadian immigration policy except there’s the Big Canada plan or whatever it’s called to have a respectable population for a G7 nation by the time many European and East Asian nations hit that demographic crisis.

Immigration is a good thing it’s been tried and tested from Rome to America and when done well the best ideas are adapted in and it was non Italians that pulled Rome out of the 2nd century crisis. The kind of migration caused by climate change (we don’t know for sure but Roman agricultural production dropped all across the Empire on a couple different occasions. Of course there were a few hordes of steppe horsemen driving immigration into Rome to its benefit when done well. Valintinian is one of the worst emperors by playing politics with Goth lives while dividing them between in and out to encourage his favor. Backfired with him killed at the Battle of Adrianople and his legion scattered. Broke the frontier lines in a huge way for the first time since the worst days of the second century.

We’re not even in the same game let along league or ballpark as Rome of the late 4th century (300’s ad).

I’m very much pro-immigration I’d like more immigration here in Michigan. Yet companies do take advantage of non-citizens and visia holders asylum seekers and straight up border crossers. It pushes wages down strong population growth needs to match up with strong economic growth, there is a bit of chicken or the egg. Even a with a speedy citizenship process too much immigration from less developed and culturally linked countries has its potential issues.

Generally getting highly skilled immigrants has very little downside maybe stirs up a bit of nationalism but the results tend to speak for themselves. Another country’s tax dollars have paid to make this person or family valuable with no input of the country’s own tax payers. People are people but poorly educated people tend to pay off in generations the parents work exceptionally hard to get their kids a good education and a shot at college. That’s a long term investment and like all needs to be handled well.

Americas broken system just provides cheap labor with deportation threats keeping wages down and take kids out of schools paid by taxpayers. Exploitation is a word for it as well as political theater like Roe V Wade was supposed to be for those who got the memo. So I’ve heard suggested. As to why the GOP like pissing off 51% of the population as Don Porfiro said now they let the tiger lose let’s see if they can control it, (the Mexican Revolution yet highly tragic yet very interesting, shout out to Mike Duncan Podcast) they can’t control it. By creating cultural wars by hijacking the response to the hippy movement and civil rights movement, promoting the evangelical movement as stoking its fear and dangling hope if we can just win enough. Knowing the consequences of actually overturning Roe in this day and age would be bad for women and their partner at least and nuclear family unit probably does as well. Not all women are upset some are happy but they were locked in die hard voters it was a political mistake that’s still unfolding.
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Last edited by Doc_Love; May 25, 2024 at 7:48 PM. Reason: Lots of auto correct and added flavor and context to such divisive topic
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