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Hawrylyshyn Jan 3, 2024 7:52 PM

205 Cannon St East| ?m | 25s | Proposed
 
Development Applications: FC-23-072

File Number: FC-23-072
Application Type: Formal Consultation
Address: 205 CANNON ST E
File Year: 2023
Description: To redevelop with a 25-storey mixed use building containing approx. 277 residential units and ±450 m2 of commercial space. Includes ±176 parking spaces.
Proposed Total Residential Units: 277

This is the fugly building directly across the street from 220 Cannon:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...99c47f87_z.jpgPicture6, on Flickr

matt602 Jan 5, 2024 2:45 PM

Almost anything would be an improvement for that piece of land.

PaperSun Jan 5, 2024 2:56 PM

Its too bad 220 Cannon St E commercial at grade is STILL vacant

SFUVancouver Jan 5, 2024 3:47 PM

I walk by this site every day and I would be thrilled to see this come to fruition. There's a burned out building kitty-corner and part of the other half of that block was recently levelled. 220 Cannon St E across the street from this site must be asking preposterous commercial rents, but it's also not exactly a block that businesses are going to be flocking to for the time being.

ScreamingViking Jan 5, 2024 9:59 PM

Cannon could become one of the city's most changed streets, if proposals like this one and those close to James pan out.

Innsertnamehere Jan 5, 2024 10:00 PM

Cannon will already be the City's most congested street once King St closes for the LRT.

Chronamut Jan 6, 2024 4:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScreamingViking (Post 10114763)
Cannon could become one of the city's most changed streets, if proposals like this one and those close to James pan out.

It's fun to dream.. isn't it.

ScreamingViking Jan 6, 2024 4:59 AM

After seeing very little happen from the 1980s to the 2010s, all the change downtown feels very dreamy.

Cannon is already quite congested between Wellington and York during morning and afternoon peak periods. This worsens considerably if curb lanes are blocked for any reason. But I expect that in a city core, and it just means planning ahead and leaving a bit more time for an auto trip across town.

Chronamut Jan 6, 2024 5:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScreamingViking (Post 10114965)
After seeing very little happen from the 1980s to the 2010s, all the change downtown feels very dreamy.

Cannon is already quite congested between Wellington and York during morning and afternoon peak periods. This worsens considerably if curb lanes are blocked for any reason. But I expect that in a city core, and it just means planning ahead and leaving a bit more time for an auto trip across town.

I meant it's fun to dream about cannon - I don't think either of us will see that transformation in our lifetimes - that's a LOOOOONG stretch of crap.

Smart people take the cut along the escarpment - shortens time across town considerably.

ScreamingViking Jan 6, 2024 5:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Chronamut (Post 10114966)
Smart people take the cut along the escarpment - shortens time across town considerably.

Definitely. I find the Sherman Access very convenient at times. For me it means having to first travel east to go west, but when the routing lights on the access are favourable it's a quicker trip (with one of the BEST views of the lower city). It's often congested closer to the Cut, but I'd wager it's still faster than fighting traffic on King or Cannon, and for me that view more than makes up for any waiting.

When heading west, the downside is the condition of Charlton especially west of John St. If I'm travelling eastward from the city centre I'll usually follow the Delaware bus route across Stinson/Delaware/Maplewood. Very interesting neighbourhoods, with some of the most impressive houses in the city.

Chronamut Jan 6, 2024 7:29 PM

There is also the detriment that you have to basically go 50 along the entire downtown stretch to ensure you hit all the green lights or you'll end up hitting every red light.

But totally agreed, the cut offers the best view of the city - it's amazing how much sprawling residential we still have, and the factories still dominate the distance.

bigguy1231 Jan 7, 2024 1:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScreamingViking (Post 10114965)
After seeing very little happen from the 1980s to the 2010s, all the change downtown feels very dreamy.

Cannon is already quite congested between Wellington and York during morning and afternoon peak periods. This worsens considerably if curb lanes are blocked for any reason. But I expect that in a city core, and it just means planning ahead and leaving a bit more time for an auto trip across town.


You think Cannon is bad now just wait until they destroy King St. with the LRT and make Main two way. The lower city is going to be a traffic disaster.

ScreamingViking Jan 7, 2024 6:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigguy1231 (Post 10115376)
You think Cannon is bad now just wait until they destroy King St. with the LRT and make Main two way. The lower city is going to be a traffic disaster.

But finally tuned more for people than cars.

matt602 Jan 7, 2024 1:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigguy1231 (Post 10115376)
You think Cannon is bad now just wait until they destroy King St. with the LRT and make Main two way. The lower city is going to be a traffic disaster.

Good. With the cars going that slow people will actually be able to enjoy living in the lower city neighborhoods.

TheRitsman Jan 8, 2024 6:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFUVancouver (Post 10114348)
I walk by this site every day and I would be thrilled to see this come to fruition. There's a burned out building kitty-corner and part of the other half of that block was recently levelled. 220 Cannon St E across the street from this site must be asking preposterous commercial rents, but it's also not exactly a block that businesses are going to be flocked to for the time being.

From what I've heard Vrancor basically asks for absolutely bonkers rent to then claim as a loss. If someone is willing to pay the rent price then they'll actually rent it out, but most won't pay their exorbitant prices.

Chronamut Jan 9, 2024 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRitsman (Post 10116082)
From what I've heard Vrancor basically asks for absolutely bonkers rent to then claim as a loss. If someone is willing to pay the rent price then they'll actually rent it out, but most won't pay their exorbitant prices.

So what, he's pulling a china, building entire cities worth of vacant buildings?

ScreamingViking Jan 9, 2024 2:29 PM

The man has been instrumental in building a lot of units downtown and helping to transform the skyline and cityscape. Kudos for that.

But it was all founded on a shady line of "business" and is handled with conduct that often seems to lack scruples.

NortheastWind Jan 9, 2024 5:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ScreamingViking (Post 10116672)
The man has been instrumental in building a lot of units downtown and helping to transform the skyline and cityscape. Kudos for that.

But it was all founded on a shady line of "business" and is handled with conduct that often seems to lack scruples.

I've heard stories where he uses envelopes of money to make things go away.


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