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Mulan Nov 3, 2023 10:54 AM

PHILADELPHIA | S.S. United States | 53,330 GRT | 990 FT (Redevelopment)
 
https://global.discourse-cdn.com/bus...999609c8b.jpeg

„ The full design program, developed over the last several years in conjunction with two prominent New York firms, RXR and MCR Hotels, would repurpose the legendary ocean liner as a unique, mixed-use destination, including a 1,000 key hotel, numerous food and beverage destinations, multiple event venues, acres of public green space, and a world-class museum. The bold and exciting plan preserves the ship’s history and activates the vessel’s commercial potential.
The conceptual plan for a privately funded, commercial redevelopment identified Manhattan’s Hudson River as the optimal “home port” for the vessel, due to its proximity to transportation and pedestrian access to the Javits Convention Center. The project would entail the redesign and reconstruction of adjacent piers, which would create acres of new public green space aboard the vessel and adjoining areas. It could also be adapted for other major urban waterfront destinations.

A full briefing on the proposed program for the SS United States by RXR and Conservancy representatives, as well as discussion of remaining challenges associated with advancing the vessel’s redevelopment, will be held on Tuesday, November 7 at 12pm (eastern time). Click HERE to register to attend.“

https://myemail.constantcontact.com/...id=uPqb4Wtczlk

https://www.ssusc.org/news/2023/11/2...-united-states


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Rendering from the S.S. United States

Mulan Nov 8, 2023 8:09 PM

https://philadelphia.today/2023/11/s...ates-purposed/

https://www.suburbanlifemagazine.com...l-Making-Waves

https://thumbs.cityrealty.com/assets...4f287717cd8671

https://thumbs.cityrealty.com/assets...41bad881c9daf5

https://thumbs.cityrealty.com/assets...cae6e37e589a72

https://thumbs.cityrealty.com/assets...9e5a2643c4546f

https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/marke...est-side/60464

Busy Bee Nov 8, 2023 8:28 PM

This is an awesome project. Really really hoping this all comes together and this old girl can be saved.

Just to be nitpicky though since that's my personality, there's something that bothers me about the fact this is being shown as moored parallel to the river. It just doesn't look right. As most will know that is not how ships we're docked or moored at the piers and I think this project would look better if it looked like a pier form with a perpendicular mooring.

Mulan Nov 18, 2023 11:25 PM

https://www.pennlive.com/resizer/wkv...4-standard.jpg

https://www.pennlive.com/life/2016/1...cts_about.html


https://www.ssusc.org/pier-activation

TK2001 Nov 18, 2023 11:41 PM

Another comparison, just five feet under the top of the cooling towers of the Comcast Technology Center

Mulan Jan 16, 2024 8:53 PM

https://www.newsday.com/amp/business...pment-e46yzowe

https://therealdeal.com/new-york/202...-deep-trouble/

Mr Saturn64 Jan 16, 2024 11:17 PM

Non-paywall link: https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...ted+States.pdf

Really bad that New York doesn't seem willing to play. The case starts tomorrow, which I cautiously optimistic that the Conservancy will win.

Busy Bee Jan 17, 2024 2:29 PM

Can somebody please fix the title? That reversed parenthesis is itching my OCD.

Mr Saturn64 Jan 18, 2024 3:15 AM

https://www.inquirer.com/news/philad...-20240117.html

Case ends tomorrow. Looks like the judge wants them to settle.

Mr Saturn64 Jan 22, 2024 3:49 PM

So... this hasn't made the news yet so here's some SSP original news. The Conservancy sent in an email to their supporters (including yours truly) that the court case ended in a no verdict. Both parties need to do some "fact finding" regarding the law. Penn Warehousing has to do this in a month, the SSUSC has to do it before March 1. If you're the Conservancy, this is a month to desperately raise funds and find somewhere to park.

Mr Saturn64 Jun 15, 2024 11:45 PM

Here we go, time to save Big U!

https://www.ssusc.org/news/2024/06/1...ate-or-be-lost

SS UNITED STATES CONSERVANCY PREVAILS IN RENT DISPUTE BUT AMERICA'S FLAGSHIP MUST RELOCATE OR BE LOST

SEFTA Jun 16, 2024 6:29 PM

My dream for Pier 84
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...950e992c_b.jpgSS United States -Pier 84 d resized by , on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...9fc6b461_b.jpgSS United States -Pier 84 e resized by , on Flickr

ChiND Jun 17, 2024 3:03 AM

The vast underused parcels between 11th and 12th would be a good site for a new MSG. I believe that they’re not zoned for tall buildings, so they’re probably worth a lot less than building sites around Penn Station.https://flic.kr/p/2pXHCoC

https://flic.kr/p/2pXHCoC

TK2001 Jun 17, 2024 10:39 AM

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...1c86403d_c.jpgWhere I think the SS United States should be moved to by Philly SkyGuy, on Flickr

Or we could give the Battleship a friend

Busy Bee Jun 17, 2024 5:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiND (Post 10227010)
The vast underused parcels between 11th and 12th would be a good site for a new MSG.

Not as good as right across the street from MSG between 6 and 7 Av though. That's is the obvious highest potential land in all of Manhattan IMO and there is one shot to get it right. Thank goodness NYguy isn't on this thread to use his crystal ball and tell me I'm crazy.

ChiND Jun 17, 2024 7:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Busy Bee (Post 10227298)
Not as good as right across the street from MSG between 6 and 7 Av though. That's is the obvious highest potential land in all of Manhattan IMO and there is one shot to get it right. Thank goodness NYguy isn't on this thread to use his crystal ball and tell me I'm crazy.

I agree, but this spot would probably be much cheaper to build a new one.

I’m curious what’s going on with MSG considering the short renewal period.

P.S.: Sorry. I just realized that Philly has its own SS US site. I didn’t realize that.

Busy Bee Jun 17, 2024 9:37 PM

Cheaper usually means worse location. It's true that location wise MSG at it's current location can't be beat. The only thing that could equal it in terms of centrality and transit is directly across the street.

ChiND Jun 18, 2024 3:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Busy Bee (Post 10227569)
Cheaper usually means worse location. It's true that location wise MSG at it's current location can't be beat. The only thing that could equal it in terms of centrality and transit is directly across the street.

That’s true. I just want to see a really good redevelopment plan that’s viable.

Mr Saturn64 Jun 18, 2024 3:40 AM

Take this with a meteor-sized grain of salt, but a coworker of mine who has a fairly good track record told me that the Conservancy has found a place for her in Delaware. That's all I know.

TK2001 Jun 18, 2024 4:39 AM

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