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MSK Reveals Plans For 600-Foot-Tall Cancer Center On Yorkville Avenue
The cancer hospital officially filed plans Tuesday for a new 31-story inpatient hospital first announced last spring.

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Peter Senzamici
Mar 28, 2023

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Memorial Sloan Kettering filed plans Tuesday to build on York Avenue a 600-foot tower they say will better allow them to provide superior treatment to cancer patients who need complex care, city records show.

The proposed MSK Pavilion would replace medical student housing and administrative offices at 1233 York Ave., near East 66th Street, with a 31-story complex, according to newly filed zoning documents.

If approved, the pavilion will total nearly 1 million square feet, with 28 operating suites and 202 inpatient beds, according to zoning documents.

Plans also include a skybridge across East 67th Street to connect the pavilion to MSK's main hospital, according to plans contingent on Transportation department approval.

The plans would also require rezoning approvals on York Avenue to allow for the size of the new building.

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If approved, the new pavilion would expand Memorial Sloan Kettering's already substantial presence in the neighborhood.

The world-renowned cancer center has eight facilities on the Upper East Side, not including its main York Avenue campus, which the new pavilion would join.

Memorial Sloan Kettering's most recent expansion was the David H. Koch Center for Cancer Care, a distinctive 25-story facility completed in 2020, facing the East River between East 73rd and 74th streets.

In January, the hospital laid off more than 300 workers in response to poor economic outlooks.

The hospital will present its plans to the Community Board 8 Zoning Committee on Tuesday evening.

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Zoning and Development Committee
Tuesday, March 28, 2023 - 6:30 PM

• Video Link

20 minute mark onward.

A cure for cancer is a tall order. Am I right?

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MSK Wants To Build Hospital Building Stalled By 9/11
Memorial Sloan Kettering is seeking to finish a zoning plan that was originally scheduled to be discussed on September 12, 2001.

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Mar 30, 2023

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Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center presented their proposal Tuesday night to finally build a new hospital building that was in the works over 20 years ago, until the September 11 terror attacks forced them to shelve their plans.

….MSK came before Community Board Eight in an early-stage presentation, which mostly received a warm reception from board members who often made unfavorable comparisons to another large rezoning request from a Lexington Avenue hospital also currently in progress.

While applauding some aspects of the presentation, members voiced concerns over the size and bulk of the proposed building as well as worries that the demolition of a MSK-owned, 336-unit residential building currently at the site would add pressure to an already historically tight housing market in the neighborhood.

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Memorial Sloan Kettering's proposal, called the MSK Pavilion, has been in the works since 2001, representative said. It involves finishing a large-scale rezoning that the world famous cancer center was in the process of over 20 years ago.

Their zoning hearing was originally scheduled for September 12, 2001, and were subsequently asked to scale back their proposal to lighten the load for the city's Planning Department, which was overburdened with the task of rebuilding lower Manhattan.

"Obviously, that hearing never occurred," said Shelly Friedman, MSK's land use attorney.

"We voluntarily withdrew that application. It's totally addressed in the City Planning Commission report, that they expected us to come back at a time when the inpatient hospital was was more developed and evolved," Friedman said as he explained the background of the site's zoning history.

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Board members applauded what nearly everyone called an "excellent" presentation and quickly drew comparisons to a concurrent rezoning request from Lenox Hill Hospital at a site a few blocks north on Lexington Avenue.

That project, according to a February presentation to the same Community Board 8 committee, is slated to take 11 years to build. MSK predicts a max of six years to construct the Pavilion, with an opening date of 2030.

Board member Anthony Cohn said "God bless you," in comparison to the Lenox Hill timeline, a bulkier project by nearly 500,000 square feet.

"They're talking about twice as long for a building that is not significantly bigger at the end of the day," he said.

Cohn also applauded MSK for proposing more space-efficient hospital rooms, at 250-300 square feet each, and operating rooms ranging from 650-700 square feet.

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But members were still concerned with the building's size, which would be even taller than the 400-foot tall Lenox Hill Hospital building.

Board member Elizabeth Rose questioned if the hospital couldn't redevelop other MSK sites instead and have two smaller buildings at a First Avenue site instead of one looming tower, which she called "far preferable."

Hospital representatives said that the First Avenue site, the Schwartz Cancer Research Building — which was one of the building to emerge from the 2001 large-scale rezoning — was ruled out early on because the property contains facilities that couldn't be easily relocated, like radiology departments and the hospital's blood bank.

"That is the one building you do not want to see increase in height, too, if you're concerned about the shadows in St. Catharines," Friedman said, in a reference to another bruising neighborhood rezoning fight over the Blood Center.

"We did look very hard at our options, because quite honestly, we didn't want to have to take down the buildings that we're planning to take down," said acting hospital president, Dr. Jeff Drebin.

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Many members also expressed worry about the removal of residential units in the neighborhood. To build the Pavilion, MSK would be forced to demolish a 270-foot, 336-unit building which currently houses staff, medical and doctoral students for the hospital and Weill Cornell Medical Center.

"Where are those people going?" asked Cohn.

Dr. Lisa DeAngelis, the chief medical officer at MSK who said she lives in the neighborhood and raised her family here, said that they have been anticipating the impact their plans will have on housing. MSK already purchased additional housing on Roosevelt Island, where the hospital has a building, she said. Additionally, MSK has two other residential locations in Lenox Hill and one in Yorkville.

But older residents, DeAngelis said, could be asked to move into market housing to ensure that younger workers and students have access to MSK-owned residential units.

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Ultimately both parties signaled a willingness to work through issues in the upcoming Community Board 8 MSK Task Force Meetings, five of which have already been planned, Cohn said.

"It's a problem and I think there are solutions that we can talk about during the during the task force," he added.

The first MSK Task Force meeting is scheduled for April 20.

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Would this be considered the tallest hospital building in the US or world?

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Originally Posted by UrbanImpact (Post 9905946)

Would this be considered the tallest hospital building in the US or world?

If Wikipedia is accurate, yes.

If ever there was a tower worthy of going up, it's this one. Cancer touches all of our lives at some point or another. If more space is needed to fight the fight, so be it, at whatever height. Some things are more important than precious views.

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 9906594)

Whose views would even be blocked by this? Aren't the adjacent towers all part of Memorial Sloan Kettering?

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Originally Posted by BuildThemTaller (Post 9906767)

Whose views would even be blocked by this? Aren't the adjacent towers all part of Memorial Sloan Kettering?

Are you kidding? A 600 ft, blocky building on the Upper East Side will block many views. The campus itself is huge.

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I see a few walk-ups across the street and then, as you mentioned, a bunch of towers that are already there. Most of the residential towers that are tall enough to have a view "blocked" by this are so far away that it won't really matter. There are towers in NYC. That's part of the deal.

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Originally Posted by BuildThemTaller (Post 9906869)

You're just not understanding the concept of a "view". It doesn't matter though.

Foster has been getting a ton of work in NYC recently. I think the big jobs he’s been getting in NYC lately would have gone to the likes of SOM or KPF 10 years ago. F+P has really successfully established themselves in the city for a non-US firm. There was a job posting in Dezeen a few weeks back for architects in Foster’s NY office where they said the focus would be on skyscrapers and healthcare facilities in the US. I guess this would be the healthcare facility they were referring to.

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Originally Posted by DeSelby (Post 9906895)

Foster has been getting a ton of work in NYC recently. I think the big jobs he’s been getting in NYC lately would have gone to the likes of SOM or KPF 10 years ago.

Foster has been getting a lot of work in the city. But those other firms have been just as busy.

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 9906879)

You're just not understanding the concept of a "view". It doesn't matter though.

Please enlighten me with your advanced understanding of a view. Is it the Ravenswood Generating Station? The planes taking off from LaGuardia? What view will be obstructed and by whom?

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Please enlighten me with your advanced understanding of a view.

I’m not going to “enlighten” you with understanding anything as basic as a view. If you don’t get it, you don’t get it. END of story. Good day.

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MSK Set To Demolish Over 300-Plus Unit Building For New Tower
The cancer center filed plans this week to start demolition of a MSK-owned, 336-unit residential building, for a nearly 600-foot-tall tower.

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Peter Senzamici
Apr 11, 2024

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If you live in Lenox Hill near York Avenue, you may soon hear the sounds of over 300 apartments disappearing from the neighborhood, to be replaced by a mega-tall cancer center.

Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center filed demolition plans this week to begin the work of taking down an MSK-owned, 308-unit residential building currently at the site of their future nearly 600-foot-tall medical tower at 1233 York Ave., between East 66th and 67th streets.

The tower, called the MSK Pavilion, will total nearly 1 million square feet, with 28 operating suites and 202 inpatient beds, according to zoning documents. It will sit squarely across the street to their current main hospital building and will be connected by a skybridge.

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According to the demolition permit, the 270-foot-tall residence, which housed staff, medical and doctoral students for the hospital and Weill Cornell Medical Center, is currently unoccupied.

The permit states the demolition is estimated to cost MSK over $1.57 million.

When MSK presented their plans for the new medical tower last year, many Community Board 8 board members spoke out in support of the plans, comparing it favorably to the proposal of another massive hospital tower planned on Lexington Avenue.

Both of the two proposals require massive rezonings to allow for the projects to continue.

Many of those same supportive members also raised concerns that the demolition of the roughly 300 apartments would increase pressure on the already overheated housing market in the neighborhood.

"Where are those people going?" asked board member Anthony Cohn at the meeting last March.

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Over the following summer, Community Board 8 held a number of MSK Task Force meetings with representatives from the hospital, raising concerns about disruption to P.S. 183 — a school located just two buildings over on the same block — housing, the building's height, parking, shadows and a bevy of other issues.

MSK officials told the board that the hospital has invested in 200 additional housing units on Roosevelt Island, and that Weill Cornell has plans to build new, 272-unit medical student housing just blocks away.

In the final resolution of the task force, the board asked that MSK, among other things, replace "all housing" on the current site with new housing units in the neighborhood.

According to MSK's zoning application, the proposal could be certified by the city's planning commission within the next 30 days.

After the city certifies the proposal, the project formally enters the land-use review process, which includes community, city council, borough president and mayoral approvals.

MSK is currently scheduled present to Community Board 8 on April 24.

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Originally Posted by UrbanImpact (Post 9905946)

Would this be considered the tallest hospital building in the US or world?

It would be the second tallest according to Wikipedia.

Toronto also has a massive hospital building proposed, but not quite as tall as this:

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Toronto's would be 554ft tall, but also a larger building than this, as it would have a floor area of about 2.6 million SF:

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This is being designed by Sir Norman Foster, so should be pretty cool architecturally.

It's only the second tallest planned hospital building in this neighborhood. Lenox Hill plans an even taller hospital tower, though the NIMBYs will fight it.

Also, that news article is silly typical NIMBYism. Tower is as-of-right, the NIMBYs can't do anything. The article implies the tower is eliminating 300 units of housing, which is false. It's replacing an empty medical dorm, which has already been replaced, so isn't removing any units of housing. And those housing units were never available to the public anyways.

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Originally Posted by Crawford (Post 10183106)

They're just talking. They don't care about that building, that's why they don't know what's going on. They're just against a new building.

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According to the demolition permit, the 270-foot-tall residence, which housed staff, medical and doctoral students for the hospital and Weill Cornell Medical Center, is currently unoccupied.