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cganuelas1995 Dec 9, 2021 9:14 PM

UBCx - Millennium Line Extension Arbutus to UBC | Proposed
 
Let's discuss the UBC extension here.

Diegotheartist1 Dec 9, 2021 9:47 PM

Thank god we have a separate thread from the Central Broadway extension!

Diegotheartist1 Dec 9, 2021 9:58 PM

I already shared this on the other thread, but I thought I'd post it again here:
https://i.imgur.com/vRtqTRY.png

My map of the UBC Extension with possible potential corridors and stations.

Feathered Friend Dec 10, 2021 12:03 AM

https://skytrain.ubc.ca/wp-content/u...BCLine_Map.png
https://skytrain.ubc.ca/about-the-project/
* Despite what's shown here, there will almost certainly be station located on Jericho Lands, as its planning process have revealed.


https://skytrain.ubc.ca/wp-content/u...time-graph.png
https://skytrain.ubc.ca/about-the-project/

Quote:

The Current Transit System is Falling Short
UBC is one of the region’s busiest transit destinations, with over 1,000 buses per day, most travelling along the congested Broadway corridor. This massive volume of bus traffic is clogging things up, causing long, slow commutes for people who use the Broadway and adjacent corridors and lower productivity for businesses in the area.
https://skytrain.ubc.ca/why-skytrain/

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$1 in $10 of Metro Vancouver’s GDP
Activity along Broadway accounts for 8-10% of the region’s economic activity


$15.5 billion in direct economic output
Generated by a vibrant business community providing a wide range of goods and services

The Broadway Ecosystem
The Broadway Corridor is uniquely placed within Metro Vancouver’s regional economy – housing the leading academic and research capabilities of UBC, key health and research clusters like the Oak-Cambie Healthcare Precinct and the growing Mount Pleasant technology hub, all with links to the downtown core, Vancouver International Airport, and growing economic centres across the region.
https://skytrain.ubc.ca/impact-benef...oadway-to-ubc/


Before this thread get's too far into the personal fantasies, and debates about what constitutes the start of construction, I thought it would be good to include some data from one of the stakeholders.

WarrenC12 Dec 10, 2021 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Feathered Friend (Post 9472686)
Before this thread get's too far into the personal fantasies, and debates about what constitutes the start of construction, I thought it would be good to include some data from one of the stakeholders.

Great data. There's a really strong connection between UBC and the VGH/Health Sciences area, where parking is a total nightmare. This will be great.

Migrant_Coconut Dec 10, 2021 1:03 AM

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12 (Post 9472696)
Great data. There's a really strong connection between UBC and the VGH/Health Sciences area, where parking is a total nightmare. This will be great.

And despite what the Condonbots insist, Zoom and Teams are insufficient for those kinds of meetings.

djh Dec 10, 2021 1:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Diegotheartist1 (Post 9472601)
I already shared this on the other thread, but I thought I'd post it again here:
https://i.imgur.com/vRtqTRY.png

My map of the UBC Extension with possible potential corridors and stations.

Much like Diego's image, I've built a Google Maps version of the proposed route, with data linked to all the studies, data on all of the large development proposals coming up (with links to the development details), and various proposed routes.
All you have to do is click on the highlighted stations, lines, or neighbourhoods to see the data:

https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2647...ucF-N-ZCTfemJd

svlt Dec 10, 2021 6:12 AM

Well, after all that kerfuffle in the other Millennium line thread, I think this one needs the "Proposed" suffix to make it official.

WarrenC12 Dec 10, 2021 5:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut (Post 9472734)
And despite what the Condonbots insist, Zoom and Teams are insufficient for those kinds of meetings.

Yeah, they had some other argument before they even knew what those tools were. :D

WarrenC12 Dec 10, 2021 5:39 PM

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Originally Posted by djh (Post 9472754)
Much like Diego's image, I've built a Google Maps version of the proposed route, with data linked to all the studies, data on all of the large development proposals coming up (with links to the development details), and various proposed routes.
All you have to do is click on the highlighted stations, lines, or neighbourhoods to see the data:

https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2647...ucF-N-ZCTfemJd

Very cool, thanks!

Does anybody know what the justification is for the end spot of the line? I'm not too familiar with UBC, but wouldn't something just a little closer to Thunderbird and the other sports fields be better, like right on W16th for other connections?

Is that area where it ends super dense with student activity?

Migrant_Coconut Dec 10, 2021 6:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12 (Post 9473150)
Yeah, they had some other argument before they even knew what those tools were. :D

Heh, do you mean when they insisted that SkyTrain was a monopoly, or that we should've build student housing on the golf courses instead?

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12 (Post 9473155)
Does anybody know what the justification is for the end spot of the line? I'm not too familiar with UBC, but wouldn't something just a little closer to Thunderbird and the other sports fields be better, like right on W16th for other connections?

Is that area where it ends super dense with student activity?

That's Wesbrook - once finished, it'll effectively house a third of the entire university.

WarrenC12 Dec 10, 2021 6:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut (Post 9473198)
Heh, do you mean when they insisted that SkyTrain was a monopoly, or that we should've build student housing on the golf courses instead?

Oh who knows. Something about Europe and trams.


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Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut (Post 9473198)
That's Wesbrook - once finished, it'll effectively house a third of the entire university.

Ah ok, makes sense then, thanks.

jollyburger Dec 10, 2021 6:45 PM

Is this U/C or Proposed?

cganuelas1995 Dec 10, 2021 9:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jollyburger (Post 9473248)
Is this U/C or Proposed?

What do you think?

Aroundtheworld Dec 10, 2021 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Feathered Friend (Post 9472686)

I imagine those car travel times will also go up as the Broadway Corridor is made more walkable, making transit times even more competitive.

WarrenC12 Dec 10, 2021 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Aroundtheworld (Post 9473493)
I imagine those car travel times will also go up as the Broadway Corridor is made more walkable, making transit times even more competitive.

Removing the parade of 99 buses (and the subway construction) will improve driving time.

Aroundtheworld Dec 11, 2021 7:13 AM

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12 (Post 9473503)
Removing the parade of 99 buses (and the subway construction) will improve driving time.

That will be marginal at best. Adding more traffic lights and making the signal cycles more pedestrian-friendly will more than offset this.

FarmerHaight Dec 11, 2021 5:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Aroundtheworld (Post 9473724)
That will be marginal at best. Adding more traffic lights and making the signal cycles more pedestrian-friendly will more than offset this.

If you want to get from any of the above locations (except YVR) to UBC fast, you take the train. Pretty simple calculus to me:shrug:

ilikeredheads Dec 12, 2021 3:41 AM

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Originally Posted by FarmerHaight (Post 9473886)
If you want to get from any of the above locations (except YVR) to UBC fast, you take the train. Pretty simple calculus to me:shrug:

commercial traffic doesnt take transit. You think goods just magically teleport?

Migrant_Coconut Dec 12, 2021 4:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ilikeredheads (Post 9474153)
commercial traffic doesnt take transit. You think goods just magically teleport?

Good thing TransLink's building a grade-separated line capable of moving 25,000 people/hour - now everybody who can possibly take the SkyTrain is free to do so, leaving Broadway and 12th open for trades and truckers. Works for Paris, HK and Osaka.


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